On 3/5/06, Max M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Geoff Davis wrote:
> > Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are
> > relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope:
> >
> > http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-thi
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
Max M wrote:
Geoff Davis wrote:
Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are
relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope:
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html
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Jeff's post are well-thought and address real concerns. Thanks for
thinking about these issues thoroughly, issues I have also discussed
on several occasions privately.
OTOH, your comment, Max, is unfair. Being convinced that Rails sucks
is once thing, convincing the 37Signals/Tim O'Reilly brainwas
Max M wrote:
Geoff Davis wrote:
Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are
relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope:
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html
http://griddlenoise.blogsp
On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
My main point is that we need to consider each of these audiences, as
they have separate concerns. We need to be explicit about this and
have messages and technical solutions tailored to each audience.
Do we? Messages, perhaps, but we should a
Max M wrote:
Geoff Davis wrote:
Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are
relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope:
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html
http://griddlenoise.blogspot
On 3/5/06, Max M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could probably do one that is a lot more impressive with an UML tool,
> Plone, archetypes and ArchgenXML. And it would most likely last 10
> minutes... if I talked very very slowly.
>
>
> But that is not the point.
YES IT IS! Do it! We need the hype!
Geoff Davis wrote:
Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are
relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope:
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html
http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/cris
- Non-technical users who just want to crank our a web application
with little muss and fuss. This was the original focus of Zope 2
and now Plone
I think this is better served by applications on top of Zope, rather than
trying to make the framework sit that close to the user. Like you
