Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Andreas Jung
2014-09-06 22:39 GMT+02:00 Christopher Lozinski : > > On 9/6/14, 9:27 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > > without citing the source > > > My Apologies. Here it is. > > > http://slacy.com/blog/2011/02/why-im-unhappy-with-the-pyramid-web-framework/ > > I quote: > > I’m having to read through the Pyramid s

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Milind Khadilkar
Thanks! :) Milind Khadilkar On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Carlos de la Guardia < carlos.delaguar...@gmail.com> wrote: > No dig. We love the caveman. > > Carlos de la Guardia > > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Milind Khadilkar > wrote: > >> Thanks, Carlos, for expressing certainty that th

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Carlos de la Guardia
No dig. We love the caveman. Carlos de la Guardia On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Milind Khadilkar wrote: > Thanks, Carlos, for expressing certainty that there will be no Zope4 (that > was the simple question I had asked! > Thanks also for pointing out substancedD. > > Will definitely go thro

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Milind Khadilkar
Thanks, Carlos, for expressing certainty that there will be no Zope4 (that was the simple question I had asked! Thanks also for pointing out substancedD. Will definitely go through it. Just one question: is the "civilized" in Build civilized web applicationsa dig at the caveman? On Sun, Sep 7,

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Carlos de la Guardia
There certainly won't be a Zope 4, but if you liked Zope and prefer more opinionated ways of doing things, you can take a look at SubstanceD, which is one of Pyramid's full stack offerings and a tiny bit what Zope 4 could have been. http://substanced.net/ Carlos de la Guardia On Sat, Sep 6, 201

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Christopher Lozinski
On 9/6/14, 9:27 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > without citing the source My Apologies. Here it is. http://slacy.com/blog/2011/02/why-im-unhappy-with-the-pyramid-web-framework/ I quote: I’m having to read through the Pyramid source code trying to figure out what the heck is going on with configu

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Andreas Jung
This nonsense needs some remarks 2014-09-06 18:02 GMT+02:00 Christopher Lozinski : > > On 9/6/14, 5:00 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > > Better look into Pyramid > > I did look at pyramid. Multiple times. My highest respects to Chrism. > > So why am I using Grok instead of Pyramid? > > Pyramid

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Christopher Lozinski
On 9/6/14, 5:00 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > Better look into Pyramid I did look at pyramid. Multiple times. My highest respects to Chrism. So why am I using Grok instead of Pyramid? Pyramid has a bit of an idenity issue. Is it for relational databases, or the Zope Object Database? Is it

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Andreas Jung
The anwser is: Zope is dead. Move on Regards Andreas Jung - Sorry for being brief - sent from a mobile device. > Am 06.09.2014 um 16:20 schrieb Milind Khadilkar : > > Afraid I am no longer actively looking for a development platform... > Have been involved with teams working on Zope2, Zope3

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Milind Khadilkar
Afraid I am no longer actively looking for a development platform... Have been involved with teams working on Zope2, Zope3, Grok, ZTK and to some extent Pyramid... over a 12 year period ( :( no contribution to community, alas!) but not at this point. But every now and then discussions bring up Zope

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Andreas Jung
Better look into Pyramid Regards Andreas Jung - Sorry for being brief - sent from a mobile device. > Am 06.09.2014 um 14:01 schrieb Milind Khadilkar : > > Hi everyone, > Hope Zope is being used in its different forms very actively all over, the > silence on this list notwithstanding. > I h

Re: [Zope3-Users] What is the status on Zope4?

2014-09-06 Thread Christopher Lozinski
On 9/6/14, 3:01 PM, Milind Khadilkar wrote: > the silence on this list notwithstanding. I am happily using Grok. It is based on ZTK, but makes life much easier. There is another person I now of who also recently started using Grok. What are you planning on doing? Regards Chris