* John Moretti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 16 Jul 2001 09:47:29 -0400, Chuck Mead wrote:
>
> > For a very, very long time Red Hat has been repeatedly accused of
> > releasing their distro in an insecure state... sendmail was always
> > released as an open relay, telnet was enabled by default, many,
> > many, many ports were left open to the world by default. So... in
> > response to this valid criticism Red Hat has now started doing the
> > exact opposite... they now release with default configurations in a
> > secure posture. I think it's important to note that in (my own
> > non-scientific estimate) 100% of the cases the previous
> > critique/accusation was being made by people who *are* capable of
> > fixing/locking down their own machines. The newbies don't care...
> > they just get owned and didn't know the difference anyway! So now
> > that the problem has been fixed does that mean that the same class
> > of people get to criticize Red Hat for *fixing* the problems they
> > were previously being bitched out for? I don't think so.
>
> THANK YOU Chuck!
> You literally read my mind :-)
> The thread is silly. Yes it is. RH has always been bitched at for being
> not "secure per default" enough, and now that things get a littler
> tighter there's massive complaining.
>
> I might agree with doc, that it should be slightly more documented (even
> though reading the RELEASE-NOTES is a must always.) just as the massive
> libwrap usage should have been publicized a bit more as well. But still
> this is the RIGHT way to go.
The thing is it's not happening just in this thread or just on this
list... the complaints are everywhere and just as stupid each time
they arise... Red Hat is doing the right thing and they've
responded to their critics in a very valid way... now if a veteran
claiming to be an expert wants to criticize them then why not
criticize something that was/is not a response/improvement to
previous criticism (though frankly *I* am so happy with seawolf I
don't know what that would be).
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