> On 3 Aug 2026, at 15:42, Marko Karppinen via Security-wg > <[email protected]> wrote: > > As someone new to the list I can naturally take the village idiot role, > without the burden of considering the outcomes of past discussions :-)
IMHO the ship of abuse reporting simply has completely sailed. Some years ago one could still report and action would be taken, now that will happen if you know the people directly and otherwise even with an intro it often just gets ignored (many people are also to busy with too many fires though). And as the subject of this thread is: - Abuse mailboxes are increasingly no longer monitored - are being replaced by (bad) forms I think we just need to accept that One way would be a 'good netizen' marking by giving LIRs with a 'functional abuse/report handling and. Noting that it is not only about abuse, sometimes there is a MTU issue, or packet lo, that one would love to see fixed and that will help both parties. Or simply peering. Contacts are hard, especially if they go against business interests. [..] > Of course, the counterargument is the one Jeroen just made, that just > responding to emails is not worth much. Sure. But a setup like this would at > least help folks keep their abuse-c working, and I’m sure there are tons of > cases where they’re inoperable not because of malice, but because nobody > thought to make sure they worked. Lots of abuse mailboxes work fine, there might even be people checking that mail is arriving from something 'important' (eg a RIR) and respond to that. But most of it is /dev/null, especially if ones "business" is facilitating the things that are complained about. There are many examples that can be found simply on: https://krebsonsecurity.com <https://krebsonsecurity.com/> the latter not being really monitored either.... Fortunately as Brian's articles shows, some operations are annoying enough for large companies to go after them with their vast legal respresentation, many are not though, and many get recycled under different names. Regards, Jeroen ----- To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/security-wg.ripe.net/ As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/
