-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Yaron,
I think it would be a good idea to merge the lists, if the SMW lists' admins concur. The advantages of a unified list clearly prevail. The only concern I have, is, what appears to be a general "shoddiness" of the SourceForge mailing list system. Sometimes a message that has only been sent once comes through the list multiple times, or a mail doesn't get accepted for a long time due to some weird greylisting settings (just happened to me yesterday). And while we are at it: I dislike SourceForge's mailing list archive... although it seems to be getting better. Google Groups seems to be a more solid / reliable mailing list service provider. Patrick. On 2009-07-15 01:24, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've had the thought over the last few months to get rid of this mailing > list/Google group, and move all discussions about Semantic Forms over to the > two Semantic MediaWiki mailing lists: semediawiki-user (for users), and > semediawiki-devel (for developers). > > When this list was started about two years ago, Semantic Forms was a very > new and rather buggy extension for SMW; at this point, it's in use on I > believe something like 80% of active SMW installations. It's still buggy, :) > but the posts on the list are less about bugs now and more about usage and > feature requests. So you could say that the SF mailing list has been a > victim of its own success: due to the technical improvements and community > support that the mailing list has enabled, SF has become a stable part of > what people consider to be SMW, and thus there's less of a need to have a > separate discussion area. > > If you're curious, you can see the monthly volume of emails on the three > lists here: > > http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms/about > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-user > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-devel > > There are currently about 100 messages a month to the SF mailing list, and a > slightly higher number of the semediawiki-user list, and about 50 a month on > the semediawiki-devel list. Altogether, I don't think getting rid of this > list would overwhelm the other two, especially since (a) some emails are > sent to both the SF and SMW-user list, and (b) other questions sent to the > SF list are really about SMW or one of the other extensions. > > I see a number of advantages in moving everything to the two SMW mailing > lists: > 1. one less mailing list for users to join > 2. reduced confusion about which mailing list to write to for which > questions, especially the borderline cases, such as anything to do with > templates > 3. makes it clearer that Semantic Forms is a part of the SMW world, as > opposed to some specialized application > 4. increases the feeling of a single SMW community, that one can address all > of at the same time > 5. allows separation of emails about Semantic Forms development from those > about SF usage, since they'd now be on separate lists > > On the other hand, I can think of two disadvantages: > > 1. it increases email volume to people who really only want to be on one > list or the other. There may be people on this list who don't want to get > general emails about SMW (though I think that would be a mistake); and of > course there will be people on the semediawiki-user list who aren't > interested in SF. I should note that, even if people on this list think it's > a good idea, I would still need to get permission from the SMW mailing list > people, so the second one is really a separate issue. > 2. the SMW mailing lists have a pretty shoddy track record of accepting > emails from new users - sometimes emails wait for a week or longer before > getting confirmed. I probably won't do the move unless I can get myself and > the other administrators of this list to be made administrators of the SMW > lists as well; which would hopefully speed things up quite a bit. > > And there might be more I haven't thought of. Any thoughts? > > -Yaron > > > > - -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4 http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpdLEsACgkQyYHmhobjRtSBJgCfUdcZFgEwWza8xMzADAMqTcxS bA8An1z5LFnGCXTkiXbxeeXoz+YE2CWq =lcFO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Semantic Forms" group. To post to this group, send email to semantic-forms@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to semantic-forms+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
