Mailman does allow 'topics' to be configured... perhaps a general
'extensions' topic would be better than a specific sf one?


2009/7/16 David Gómez <dvd...@gmail.com>:
>
> I'm thinking that might be a good idea to use '[SF]' in the subject of
> SemanticForms related messages in SMW list, this will allow us to
> distinguish them from others.
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Yaron Koren<yaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alright, thanks for all the feeback (Dan - haha!). So, it looks like this
>> mailing list may be coming to an end soon. Patrick - you raised an
>> interesting point about SourceForge - I had always assumed that the slowness
>> of emails on the SMW lists was due to the admins not handling stuff quickly,
>> but maybe they're just technical issues. I'm waiting to hear back now from
>> the SMW admins about that and other issues - I'll let everyone know.
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:20 AM, David Gómez <dvd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is a little pitiful to leave this list
>>> :_-(
>>> :-)
>>> ... but I believe that the exposed reasons for merging have sense.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> dvdgmz.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM,
>>> Martien<martien.van.steenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > +1 for merging
>>> >
>>> > dreamwish: Semantic Google Wave
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 14, 7:24 pm, Yaron Koren <yaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Hi everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >> I've had the thought over the last few months to get rid of this
>>> >> mailing
>>> >> list/Google group, and move all discussions about Semantic Forms over
>>> >> to the
>>> >> two Semantic MediaWiki mailing lists: semediawiki-user (for users), and
>>> >> semediawiki-devel (for developers).
>>> >>
>>> >> When this list was started about two years ago, Semantic Forms was a
>>> >> very
>>> >> new and rather buggy extension for SMW; at this point, it's in use on I
>>> >> believe something like 80% of active SMW installations. It's still
>>> >> buggy, :)
>>> >> but the posts on the list are less about bugs now and more about usage
>>> >> and
>>> >> feature requests. So you could say that the SF mailing list has been a
>>> >> victim of its own success: due to the technical improvements and
>>> >> community
>>> >> support that the mailing list has enabled, SF has become a stable part
>>> >> of
>>> >> what people consider to be SMW, and thus there's less of a need to have
>>> >> a
>>> >> separate discussion area.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you're curious, you can see the monthly volume of emails on the
>>> >> three
>>> >> lists here:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms/about
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-user
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-d...
>>> >>
>>> >> There are currently about 100 messages a month to the SF mailing list,
>>> >> and a
>>> >> slightly higher number of the semediawiki-user list, and about 50 a
>>> >> month on
>>> >> the semediawiki-devel list. Altogether, I don't think getting rid of
>>> >> this
>>> >> list would overwhelm the other two, especially since (a) some emails
>>> >> are
>>> >> sent to both the SF and SMW-user list, and (b) other questions sent to
>>> >> the
>>> >> SF list are really about SMW or one of the other extensions.
>>> >>
>>> >> I see a number of advantages in moving everything to the two SMW
>>> >> mailing
>>> >> lists:
>>> >> 1. one less mailing list for users to join
>>> >> 2. reduced confusion about which mailing list to write to for which
>>> >> questions, especially the borderline cases, such as anything to do with
>>> >> templates
>>> >> 3. makes it clearer that Semantic Forms is a part of the SMW world, as
>>> >> opposed to some specialized application
>>> >> 4. increases the feeling of a single SMW community, that one can
>>> >> address all
>>> >> of at the same time
>>> >> 5. allows separation of emails about Semantic Forms development from
>>> >> those
>>> >> about SF usage, since they'd now be on separate lists
>>> >>
>>> >> On the other hand, I can think of two disadvantages:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. it increases email volume to people who really only want to be on
>>> >> one
>>> >> list or the other. There may be people on this list who don't want to
>>> >> get
>>> >> general emails about SMW (though I think that would be a mistake); and
>>> >> of
>>> >> course there will be people on the semediawiki-user list who aren't
>>> >> interested in SF. I should note that, even if people on this list think
>>> >> it's
>>> >> a good idea, I would still need to get permission from the SMW mailing
>>> >> list
>>> >> people, so the second one is really a separate issue.
>>> >> 2. the SMW mailing lists have a pretty shoddy track record of accepting
>>> >> emails from new users - sometimes emails wait for a week or longer
>>> >> before
>>> >> getting confirmed. I probably won't do the move unless I can get myself
>>> >> and
>>> >> the other administrators of this list to be made administrators of the
>>> >> SMW
>>> >> lists as well; which would hopefully speed things up quite a bit.
>>> >>
>>> >> And there might be more I haven't thought of. Any thoughts?
>>> >>
>>> >> -Yaron
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
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