I'm thinking that might be a good idea to use '[SF]' in the subject of
SemanticForms related messages in SMW list, this will allow us to
distinguish them from others.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Yaron Koren<yaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alright, thanks for all the feeback (Dan - haha!). So, it looks like this
> mailing list may be coming to an end soon. Patrick - you raised an
> interesting point about SourceForge - I had always assumed that the slowness
> of emails on the SMW lists was due to the admins not handling stuff quickly,
> but maybe they're just technical issues. I'm waiting to hear back now from
> the SMW admins about that and other issues - I'll let everyone know.
>
> -Yaron
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:20 AM, David Gómez <dvd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is a little pitiful to leave this list
>> :_-(
>> :-)
>> ... but I believe that the exposed reasons for merging have sense.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> dvdgmz.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM,
>> Martien<martien.van.steenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > +1 for merging
>> >
>> > dreamwish: Semantic Google Wave
>> >
>> > On Jul 14, 7:24 pm, Yaron Koren <yaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I've had the thought over the last few months to get rid of this
>> >> mailing
>> >> list/Google group, and move all discussions about Semantic Forms over
>> >> to the
>> >> two Semantic MediaWiki mailing lists: semediawiki-user (for users), and
>> >> semediawiki-devel (for developers).
>> >>
>> >> When this list was started about two years ago, Semantic Forms was a
>> >> very
>> >> new and rather buggy extension for SMW; at this point, it's in use on I
>> >> believe something like 80% of active SMW installations. It's still
>> >> buggy, :)
>> >> but the posts on the list are less about bugs now and more about usage
>> >> and
>> >> feature requests. So you could say that the SF mailing list has been a
>> >> victim of its own success: due to the technical improvements and
>> >> community
>> >> support that the mailing list has enabled, SF has become a stable part
>> >> of
>> >> what people consider to be SMW, and thus there's less of a need to have
>> >> a
>> >> separate discussion area.
>> >>
>> >> If you're curious, you can see the monthly volume of emails on the
>> >> three
>> >> lists here:
>> >>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms/about
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-user
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-d...
>> >>
>> >> There are currently about 100 messages a month to the SF mailing list,
>> >> and a
>> >> slightly higher number of the semediawiki-user list, and about 50 a
>> >> month on
>> >> the semediawiki-devel list. Altogether, I don't think getting rid of
>> >> this
>> >> list would overwhelm the other two, especially since (a) some emails
>> >> are
>> >> sent to both the SF and SMW-user list, and (b) other questions sent to
>> >> the
>> >> SF list are really about SMW or one of the other extensions.
>> >>
>> >> I see a number of advantages in moving everything to the two SMW
>> >> mailing
>> >> lists:
>> >> 1. one less mailing list for users to join
>> >> 2. reduced confusion about which mailing list to write to for which
>> >> questions, especially the borderline cases, such as anything to do with
>> >> templates
>> >> 3. makes it clearer that Semantic Forms is a part of the SMW world, as
>> >> opposed to some specialized application
>> >> 4. increases the feeling of a single SMW community, that one can
>> >> address all
>> >> of at the same time
>> >> 5. allows separation of emails about Semantic Forms development from
>> >> those
>> >> about SF usage, since they'd now be on separate lists
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, I can think of two disadvantages:
>> >>
>> >> 1. it increases email volume to people who really only want to be on
>> >> one
>> >> list or the other. There may be people on this list who don't want to
>> >> get
>> >> general emails about SMW (though I think that would be a mistake); and
>> >> of
>> >> course there will be people on the semediawiki-user list who aren't
>> >> interested in SF. I should note that, even if people on this list think
>> >> it's
>> >> a good idea, I would still need to get permission from the SMW mailing
>> >> list
>> >> people, so the second one is really a separate issue.
>> >> 2. the SMW mailing lists have a pretty shoddy track record of accepting
>> >> emails from new users - sometimes emails wait for a week or longer
>> >> before
>> >> getting confirmed. I probably won't do the move unless I can get myself
>> >> and
>> >> the other administrators of this list to be made administrators of the
>> >> SMW
>> >> lists as well; which would hopefully speed things up quite a bit.
>> >>
>> >> And there might be more I haven't thought of. Any thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> -Yaron
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>

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