It looks like 'topics' in mailman are just set by the system looking for certain expressions in the subject line:
http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node30.html Given that, it seems like there's no conflict between having a convention for marking messages and using topics... maybe it makes sense, as David suggested, to try marking emails as related to a specific extension by using the acronym, like "SF", "SD" (for Semantic Drilldown), "SQFT" (for Semantic Query Form Tool), etc. Of course, not everyone will use any convention we come up with, and some cases are in a gray area anyway between different extensions, but it would be interesting to try out, I think. -Yaron On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Dan Bolser <dan.bol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mailman does allow 'topics' to be configured... perhaps a general > 'extensions' topic would be better than a specific sf one? > > > 2009/7/16 David Gómez <dvd...@gmail.com>: > > > > I'm thinking that might be a good idea to use '[SF]' in the subject of > > SemanticForms related messages in SMW list, this will allow us to > > distinguish them from others. > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Yaron Koren<yaro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Alright, thanks for all the feeback (Dan - haha!). So, it looks like > this > >> mailing list may be coming to an end soon. Patrick - you raised an > >> interesting point about SourceForge - I had always assumed that the > slowness > >> of emails on the SMW lists was due to the admins not handling stuff > quickly, > >> but maybe they're just technical issues. I'm waiting to hear back now > from > >> the SMW admins about that and other issues - I'll let everyone know. > >> > >> -Yaron > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:20 AM, David Gómez <dvd...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> It is a little pitiful to leave this list > >>> :_-( > >>> :-) > >>> ... but I believe that the exposed reasons for merging have sense. > >>> > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> dvdgmz. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, > >>> Martien<martien.van.steenber...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > +1 for merging > >>> > > >>> > dreamwish: Semantic Google Wave > >>> > > >>> > On Jul 14, 7:24 pm, Yaron Koren <yaro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> Hi everyone, > >>> >> > >>> >> I've had the thought over the last few months to get rid of this > >>> >> mailing > >>> >> list/Google group, and move all discussions about Semantic Forms > over > >>> >> to the > >>> >> two Semantic MediaWiki mailing lists: semediawiki-user (for users), > and > >>> >> semediawiki-devel (for developers). > >>> >> > >>> >> When this list was started about two years ago, Semantic Forms was a > >>> >> very > >>> >> new and rather buggy extension for SMW; at this point, it's in use > on I > >>> >> believe something like 80% of active SMW installations. It's still > >>> >> buggy, :) > >>> >> but the posts on the list are less about bugs now and more about > usage > >>> >> and > >>> >> feature requests. So you could say that the SF mailing list has been > a > >>> >> victim of its own success: due to the technical improvements and > >>> >> community > >>> >> support that the mailing list has enabled, SF has become a stable > part > >>> >> of > >>> >> what people consider to be SMW, and thus there's less of a need to > have > >>> >> a > >>> >> separate discussion area. > >>> >> > >>> >> If you're curious, you can see the monthly volume of emails on the > >>> >> three > >>> >> lists here: > >>> >> > >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms/about > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-user > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-d... > >>> >> > >>> >> There are currently about 100 messages a month to the SF mailing > list, > >>> >> and a > >>> >> slightly higher number of the semediawiki-user list, and about 50 a > >>> >> month on > >>> >> the semediawiki-devel list. Altogether, I don't think getting rid of > >>> >> this > >>> >> list would overwhelm the other two, especially since (a) some emails > >>> >> are > >>> >> sent to both the SF and SMW-user list, and (b) other questions sent > to > >>> >> the > >>> >> SF list are really about SMW or one of the other extensions. > >>> >> > >>> >> I see a number of advantages in moving everything to the two SMW > >>> >> mailing > >>> >> lists: > >>> >> 1. one less mailing list for users to join > >>> >> 2. reduced confusion about which mailing list to write to for which > >>> >> questions, especially the borderline cases, such as anything to do > with > >>> >> templates > >>> >> 3. makes it clearer that Semantic Forms is a part of the SMW world, > as > >>> >> opposed to some specialized application > >>> >> 4. increases the feeling of a single SMW community, that one can > >>> >> address all > >>> >> of at the same time > >>> >> 5. allows separation of emails about Semantic Forms development from > >>> >> those > >>> >> about SF usage, since they'd now be on separate lists > >>> >> > >>> >> On the other hand, I can think of two disadvantages: > >>> >> > >>> >> 1. it increases email volume to people who really only want to be on > >>> >> one > >>> >> list or the other. There may be people on this list who don't want > to > >>> >> get > >>> >> general emails about SMW (though I think that would be a mistake); > and > >>> >> of > >>> >> course there will be people on the semediawiki-user list who aren't > >>> >> interested in SF. I should note that, even if people on this list > think > >>> >> it's > >>> >> a good idea, I would still need to get permission from the SMW > mailing > >>> >> list > >>> >> people, so the second one is really a separate issue. > >>> >> 2. the SMW mailing lists have a pretty shoddy track record of > accepting > >>> >> emails from new users - sometimes emails wait for a week or longer > >>> >> before > >>> >> getting confirmed. I probably won't do the move unless I can get > myself > >>> >> and > >>> >> the other administrators of this list to be made administrators of > the > >>> >> SMW > >>> >> lists as well; which would hopefully speed things up quite a bit. > >>> >> > >>> >> And there might be more I haven't thought of. Any thoughts? > >>> >> > >>> >> -Yaron > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Semantic Forms" group. To post to this group, send email to semantic-forms@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to semantic-forms+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
