Alright, thanks for all the feeback (Dan - haha!). So, it looks like this
mailing list may be coming to an end soon. Patrick - you raised an
interesting point about SourceForge - I had always assumed that the slowness
of emails on the SMW lists was due to the admins not handling stuff quickly,
but maybe they're just technical issues. I'm waiting to hear back now from
the SMW admins about that and other issues - I'll let everyone know.

-Yaron


On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:20 AM, David Gómez <dvd...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> It is a little pitiful to leave this list
> :_-(
> :-)
> ... but I believe that the exposed reasons for merging have sense.
>
> +1
>
> dvdgmz.
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM,
> Martien<martien.van.steenber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for merging
> >
> > dreamwish: Semantic Google Wave
> >
> > On Jul 14, 7:24 pm, Yaron Koren <yaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I've had the thought over the last few months to get rid of this mailing
> >> list/Google group, and move all discussions about Semantic Forms over to
> the
> >> two Semantic MediaWiki mailing lists: semediawiki-user (for users), and
> >> semediawiki-devel (for developers).
> >>
> >> When this list was started about two years ago, Semantic Forms was a
> very
> >> new and rather buggy extension for SMW; at this point, it's in use on I
> >> believe something like 80% of active SMW installations. It's still
> buggy, :)
> >> but the posts on the list are less about bugs now and more about usage
> and
> >> feature requests. So you could say that the SF mailing list has been a
> >> victim of its own success: due to the technical improvements and
> community
> >> support that the mailing list has enabled, SF has become a stable part
> of
> >> what people consider to be SMW, and thus there's less of a need to have
> a
> >> separate discussion area.
> >>
> >> If you're curious, you can see the monthly volume of emails on the three
> >> lists here:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/semantic-forms/about
> >>
> >>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-user
> >>
> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=semediawiki-d.
> ..
> >>
> >> There are currently about 100 messages a month to the SF mailing list,
> and a
> >> slightly higher number of the semediawiki-user list, and about 50 a
> month on
> >> the semediawiki-devel list. Altogether, I don't think getting rid of
> this
> >> list would overwhelm the other two, especially since (a) some emails are
> >> sent to both the SF and SMW-user list, and (b) other questions sent to
> the
> >> SF list are really about SMW or one of the other extensions.
> >>
> >> I see a number of advantages in moving everything to the two SMW mailing
> >> lists:
> >> 1. one less mailing list for users to join
> >> 2. reduced confusion about which mailing list to write to for which
> >> questions, especially the borderline cases, such as anything to do with
> >> templates
> >> 3. makes it clearer that Semantic Forms is a part of the SMW world, as
> >> opposed to some specialized application
> >> 4. increases the feeling of a single SMW community, that one can address
> all
> >> of at the same time
> >> 5. allows separation of emails about Semantic Forms development from
> those
> >> about SF usage, since they'd now be on separate lists
> >>
> >> On the other hand, I can think of two disadvantages:
> >>
> >> 1. it increases email volume to people who really only want to be on one
> >> list or the other. There may be people on this list who don't want to
> get
> >> general emails about SMW (though I think that would be a mistake); and
> of
> >> course there will be people on the semediawiki-user list who aren't
> >> interested in SF. I should note that, even if people on this list think
> it's
> >> a good idea, I would still need to get permission from the SMW mailing
> list
> >> people, so the second one is really a separate issue.
> >> 2. the SMW mailing lists have a pretty shoddy track record of accepting
> >> emails from new users - sometimes emails wait for a week or longer
> before
> >> getting confirmed. I probably won't do the move unless I can get myself
> and
> >> the other administrators of this list to be made administrators of the
> SMW
> >> lists as well; which would hopefully speed things up quite a bit.
> >>
> >> And there might be more I haven't thought of. Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> -Yaron
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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