On 8/31/07, Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That was the point of weakening the copyleft a bit by using MPL or
> > LGPL. The MPL does not require that code linked to it is licensed
> > under a compatible license. It just doesn't care.
>
> Which is great for adoption. If we could patch a BSD clause on top, it
> provides added benefits, but not necessary.

I think having dual licensing with BSD/MPL is going to moot the
copyleft. But, on a commercial stance, we could provide BSD licensing
terms for business interests under a small fee, which would go to the
project for use for hosting costs, grants, etc. In order for that to
work we'd have to set up a nonprofit, which is totally possible if the
size of the project increases somewhat.

>
> > > (I don't think they are bad, I think they are evil)
> >
> > Yes, software patents are evil.
>
> Evil evil evil.

EVIL :-P

> > The MPL would stop commercial entities from taking the SharpOS code,
> > making some changes/improvements, and closing it off (a so-called
> > "closed fork" in the BSD/permissive model). I'm interested in this
> > because I want to see the improvements to my code, and they shouldn't
> > be able to stop me from doing that. Especially if they build their
> > business around my hard work.
>
> I'm ok with that and understand your sentiments.
>
> > Yes they should in my mind. I once worked at a restaurant where I had
> > to sign an NDA for their recipes and I was appalled. I needed a job at
> > the time but I cringed when my signature hit the line. It's a sin I'm
>
> I don't want to get into politics - but Id say you have a choice not to work
> there. :)

I do, but making money for the rent is more important than my
politics. I just don't agree with the matter :-\.

> > still atoning for. Is it coincidence that your other example is one of
> > the most corrupt industries in America today?
>
> They arent just in America. I have my own views on many things including
> America, but they arent suited for here and I'll refrain from injecting
> them. I try to pick generic examples. I don't belive prescription drugs are
> unique to America. We have Pfizer, Bayer, etc here in Europe.

Well, prescription drugs in Europe and other places is significantly
cheaper than here in America, where we let the drug companies jack up
the price.

> > Mono would still be used, I know. Why? Because I would use it. Would
>
> It would be used - but much much less, and because of that it would be much
> much less than it is, which would further reduce it use because its
> usefulness would be les...
>
> > you use it? No, but not everyone agrees. But I'm not recommending a
> > blanket GPL license here, I've already said MPL, LGPL or another weak
> > copyleft license would do just fine as a compromise.
>
> I think were in agreement now, just need to see others opinions. I wasnt
> targeting my GPL input to you, but for others who might not know GPL etc..
>
> I also think it simplifies things a lot both for us and users if we use one
> license, instead of mixing some parts on one, some parts on another.

Why not, sounds good.

>
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