OK, though I meant it to not be negative, it came off as such.
Nothing against Mac, and I hate MS as much as the next person. But the
fact is:

You got to be able to run what you need to in the most economical and
efficient manner possible. Make sure you evaluate whether your future
platform can do this before investing.

To counter my earlier Apple biz note:

Dell doesn't use Dell computers to run their crucial apps. Michael Dell
writes a monthly check to Michael Capellas (I guess now Carly) to pay
for his S Series Himalaya.

Mark

Richard Kennedy wrote:

>
  '" NEGATIVE WAVES " RK Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club
  Repair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -------Original Message-------

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, August 19, 2002 06:49:44 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
   I see a lot of positive Mac responses, and I have nothing against
  Mac
  (use to have one for a while). But the biggest question you need
  to ask
  yourself is:

  What am I going to use this box for? You got a real business and
  running
  a financial application? Realistically not on Mac you are. Needing
  to
  set up web server and application server to enable your database
  so that
  you can book real time orders dependent upon your supply chain.
  Realistically not on Mac are you. Developing a golf app you want
  to
  share/sell to your peers that is web enabled, and want to keep
  licensing
  costs to a minimum (ie: free databases, etc). Realistically, not
  on Mac
  are you.

  Let's face it, its the applications, not the box itself, which
  dictates
  the value you get from a computer. I know for what I use a
  computer for,
  Mac isn't an option as there are no applications available. I get
  the
  "graphics" speech at time, but lets face it, if you are doing
  serious
  graphics work (say using Lightwave) when was the last Mac release?
  It is
  much more supported in MS and Linux as well as flavors of UNIX
  (IRIX).

  Even the major studios don't use it. It use to be that IRIX and
  DigitalUNIX (now Tru64UNIX) were the ones, but there is a stronger

  influence of MS and Linux. (As far as Linux, imagine being able to

  create a large cluster (Beowulf) with no additional licensing
  costs and
  process your rendering needs in 1/4th the time. There is value in
  reduced time to market.)

  Again not trying to slam Mac (remember I use to own one), its just
  that
  you should do your homework on what you need it to do before you
  make
  the purchase.

  Even Apple doesn't use their stuff to run there business.

  Mark

  Bruce Taylor wrote:

  > RK, go with the Mac, you won't be sorry. Bruce
  >
  >> Cub, XP didn't come out until about 6 months after I got the
  new
  >> puter. 38.7 GB HD, 384 MB RAM, 1.25 GB Processor. $1400.00
  >> w/no programs except Windows ME. Apple tells me they can build
  >> me a better machine for about the same money, 60 GB HD, 256
  RAM, 2.0
  >> GB Processor, 6 USB ports. PLus all the programs, Word
  Processor,
  >> Spread Sheet, Access, Photo, etc, etc. For an extra $100.00 I
  can
  >> have the RAM increased to 512 MB.
  >
  >>
  >
  >> RK
  >
  >>
  >
  >> Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
  >
  >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  >> -------Original Message-------
  >
  >>
  >
  >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  >> Date: Sunday, August 18, 2002 04:05:52 PM
  >
  >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
  >
  >>
  >
  >> RK,
  >
  >>
  >
  >> Sounds like they blew a little smoke. I have a 1GB processor
  and
  >> only 256mb of RAM. XP runs on it without problems, so far.
  >
  >>
  >
  >> Cub
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >>
  >> From: Richard Kennedy
  >>
  >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >>
  >> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:49 AM
  >>
  >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Mark, I've got ME because when I had this machine built
  >> they told me I had to have it because of the size of my
  >> processor, 1.25 GB. As soon as the market gets back to
  >> just where it was two years ago it's "GOODBYE" PC "HELLO
  >> APPLE"
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> RK
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
  >>
  >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >>
  >> -------Original Message-------
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >>
  >> Date: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:20:27 PM
  >>
  >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >>
  >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> ME is the devil seed. The worst of every kernel and more.
  >> Honestly, for home use, I would say 98SE or W2K for the
  >> Windows
  >> platforms.
  >>
  >> Mark
  >>
  >> Steve \"Cub\" Culbreth wrote:
  >>
  >> > ME finally killed my machine. I'm on XP Pro now and
  >> feeling much
  >> > better. Although it is a bit of a learning curve. Cub
  >> >
  >> > ----- Original Message -----
  >> > From: Richard Kennedy
  >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 2:33 PM
  >> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
  >> >
  >> >
  >> Al, don't get ME. My sister-inlaw is a puter
  >> programer/ miss puter fix-it for a major computer outfit
  >> and she told me that they have taken ME off ALL of their
  >> customers units and replaced it free with either
  >> Win/Plus or XP. Guess what I got with my new puter,
  >> you guessed it "ME". Apple here I come, as soon as
  >> the markets come back that is. RK Manufacturer's of
  >> World Class Golf Club Repair
  >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> -------Original Message-------
  >>
  >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> Date: Saturday, August 17, 2002 05:26:35 PM
  >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> Subject: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
  >> Techies,
  >> I used win95 on old machine and had installed win95
  >> "plus". Liked the
  >> extra features and games. Now new puter has win2k pro.
  >> Can't find a
  >> "plus" package nor a game pack for it. Any suggestions?
  >> Does the XP
  >> version work ok on 2k? Tia.
  >>
  >> Al
  >>
  >>
  >> .
  >>
  >> >
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