Mark, Just casually following your dilemma with those criminals and your crime-like shots. ;-) Will let you deal with the stealers of old clubs.
If you swing is "definitely inside out" I am not sure how you are pulling them. Also, it would be hard to get "sky-high" shots unless you were laying the club wide open. Hitting them low and close to the hosel would tell me you should be getting a lot of Sh__nk shots, but you don't mention that. Since I can't remember your swing from the last time we played, I would ask you to describe again your swing. I think we may have a mix up here. An LPGA pro, that I took lessons from, gave me a swing check that helps me a lot to get back to basics. First of all, take away is low and slow. Start it back inside, but do not lay the club off. As your wrists break, think "thumbs up" as you bring the club behind your head. Keep back of left hand flat and in line with your wrist and forearm. That usually helps a lot if I don't forget to turn. ;-)) Al At 10:27 PM 8/25/2002, you wrote: >You know whats unique here: I never at anytime think of wrist cock. I feel >like >I am blocking the ball most of the time (retarding wrist cock/release as I am >afraid of the death hook). My swing has been describe as flat though not w/ >short irons. > >We're getting more towards a fitting here (and I appreciate it as we all make >our own worst DR). To give a reference as far as distance relative to height. >Avg 5 iron is 180. SW is 110 and SKY HIGH! Head is a verified 56* loft. 8 iron >is also a verified 40* and good for a SKY HIGH 150 yd shot. Most recent >previous >heads used were Chicago 944 DBs and Toski Classics. > >Here's the kicker, I am looking at a try at a higher offset, COG moved >back set. >While sounding crazy: >A: I demoed a set I made and had unique results, (Figured it was the >newness of >the offset) >B: I need to try something else I am working on currently requiring (easiest >method) a GS iron head. Those that are fitting for this experiment are high >offset. > >Mark > >Bernie Baymiller wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > Well, sounds like you're taking the club back inside too much. I'd work on > > taking the club straight back from the ball without breaking your wrists. > > Going straight back will force your upper body to turn about 90�. Keep the > > back of your left hand almost vertical and when your backswing gets about > > waist high, cock your wrist straight up, keeping the wrist-to-hand area > flat > > as it started. The club should go up between your head and right shoulder, > > club head hanging down and shaft pointing nearly at the target. If you take > > the club too much inside on the backswing, the head gets behind your body > > and too flat. Then, you have to really roll the right hand, throwing the > > club over the top to make any contact, your body is ahead and the result is > > a pull hook. > > > > The Acer XDS2 Pros might be a head you'd like better than the Catapult STS, > > because they have almost no offset. If your short irons are too high, you > > might look at some of the delofted style heads, which include: > > Avocet from Mirage, GV Back and KS Tour from Diamond Tour, PS Series 3 from > > Streamline, and there are probably a few others out there. These are > > generally low cg irons, so even though they are delofted to 43� and 44� > PWs, > > they still hit the ball almost a normal height, but about 10-15 yards > > farther than normal lofts. Have no idea of the quality of these heads, but > > the Acer XDS2 Pros are good ones (though only delofted to a 46� PW). > > > > Bernie > > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: was Test now iron heads > > > > > Bernie, I appreciate your response. What I was trying to do is solicit: > > > A: 1st some traffic here > > > B: an idea of what people are playing and why > > > > > > As far as your questions: > > > With this new set, I may be trying heads outside the norm of what I > > prefer, and > > > also what common knowledge leads to. > > > > > > I have an awful tendency to pull irons (as well as all other clubs), and > > when I > > > do not, I still hit a hook. Swing path is distinctly inside to outside., > > > Historically I have preferred to play minimal offset heads (Chicago 944DB > > and > > > Toski Classic). Traj has been messed up by my awful swing. In the past. > > All > > > shots were high, now only short irons are high (when I say high, I mean > > NASA > > > picks them up). > > > > > > Thinking of trying some items outside of the norm (ie: an large offset > > with a > > > large cavity back). > > > > > > My tendency is to catch the ball on the downward stroke low on on the > > heel. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > Bernie Baymiller wrote: > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > What are your objectives and preferences for your irons? What kind of > > look > > > > do you like? How far do you want to hit a 7-iron and a PW? What are > your > > > > directional tendencies? Cost parameters? > > > > > > > > If you like the look and feel of blades, the semi-cavity back Chicago > > 944C > > > > is hard to beat. Hits solid and long with the right graphite > > shafts...like > > > > Apache PM-30s. > > > > > > > > If you like cavity backs with low offset, Hireko's Acer XDS2 > > Professional is > > > > a quality-made, solid hitting head that looks much more expensive than > > it > > > > is. PW is slightly delofted at 46�. > > > > > > > > If you like cavity backs and are a fader who is helped by offset and > > needs > > > > distance in the short irons, Hireko's Catapult STS is another quality, > > low > > > > cost head with a low cg and is considerably delofted for the 7 through > > the > > > > PW (44�). > > > > > > > > I'm playing the Catapult STS with steel shafts from 8-PW and the > Chicago > > > > 944s from 4 through 7-iron with Apache graphites. The combo works well > > for > > > > me, since I have a slightly outside-in swing and tend to launch my > short > > > > irons higher than normal. > > > > > > > > Others that seem to play well for my customers: Dynacraft PC-3 has > three > > > > different lies available. Golfworks CER 551 plays OK. Check out golf > > club > > > > review for some others. http://www.golfclubreview.com/componen2.htm > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 3:44 PM > > > > Subject: ShopTalk: was Test now iron heads > > > > > > > > > oops > > > > > quiet I meant > > > > > > > > > > Looking for opinions on your fav iron head and why. > > > > > My house was robbed the other day, and one of the many things taken > > was > > > > > my > > > > > clubs. Being that it is slow, lets open up a thread on fav iron heads > > > > > and > > > > > the whys behind it. > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > "Mark A. Patton" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Test > > > > > > Been real quite here > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
