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Mark, don't forget that some of us has played golf with you, DON'T
WORRY ABOUT A HOOK.
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair
Equipment
-------Original Message-------
Date: Sunday, August
25, 2002 10:29:06 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk:
was Test now iron heads
You know whats unique here: I never at anytime think of
wrist cock. I feel like
I am blocking the ball most of the time
(retarding wrist cock/release as I am
afraid of the death hook). My
swing has been describe as flat though not w/
short irons.
We're
getting more towards a fitting here (and I appreciate it as we all
make
our own worst DR). To give a reference as far as distance relative
to height.
Avg 5 iron is 180. SW is 110 and SKY HIGH! Head is a
verified 56* loft. 8 iron
is also a verified 40* and good for a SKY
HIGH 150 yd shot. Most recent previous
heads used were Chicago 944 DBs
and Toski Classics.
Here's the kicker, I am looking at a try at a
higher offset, COG moved back set.
While sounding crazy:
A: I demoed
a set I made and had unique results, (Figured it was the newness of
the
offset)
B: I need to try something else I am working on currently
requiring (easiest
method) a GS iron head. Those that are fitting for
this experiment are high
offset.
Mark
Bernie Baymiller
wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Well, sounds like you're taking
the club back inside too much. I'd work on
> taking the club
straight back from the ball without breaking your wrists.
> Going
straight back will force your upper body to turn about 90�. Keep
the
> back of your left hand almost vertical and when your backswing
gets about
> waist high, cock your wrist straight up, keeping the
wrist-to-hand area flat
> as it started. The club should go up
between your head and right shoulder,
> club head hanging down and
shaft pointing nearly at the target. If you take
> the club too much
inside on the backswing, the head gets behind your body
> and too
flat. Then, you have to really roll the right hand, throwing the
>
club over the top to make any contact, your body is ahead and the result
is
> a pull hook.
>
> The Acer XDS2 Pros might be a head
you'd like better than the Catapult STS,
> because they have almost
no offset. If your short irons are too high, you
> might look at
some of the delofted style heads, which include:
> Avocet from
Mirage, GV Back and KS Tour from Diamond Tour, PS Series 3 from
>
Streamline, and there are probably a few others out there. These
are
> generally low cg irons, so even though they are delofted to
43� and 44� PWs,
> they still hit the ball almost a normal height,
but about 10-15 yards
> farther than normal lofts. Have no idea of
the quality of these heads, but
> the Acer XDS2 Pros are good ones
(though only delofted to a 46� PW).
>
> Bernie
>
Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: was
Test now iron heads
>
> > Bernie, I appreciate your
response. What I was trying to do is solicit:
> > A: 1st some
traffic here
> > B: an idea of what people are playing and
why
> >
> > As far as your questions:
> > With
this new set, I may be trying heads outside the norm of what I
>
prefer, and
> > also what common knowledge leads to.
>
>
> > I have an awful tendency to pull irons (as well as all
other clubs), and
> when I
> > do not, I still hit a hook.
Swing path is distinctly inside to outside.,
> > Historically I
have preferred to play minimal offset heads (Chicago 944DB
>
and
> > Toski Classic). Traj has been messed up by my awful
swing. In the past.
> All
> > shots were high, now only
short irons are high (when I say high, I mean
> NASA
> >
picks them up).
> >
> > Thinking of trying some items
outside of the norm (ie: an large offset
> with a
> > large
cavity back).
> >
> > My tendency is to catch the ball
on the downward stroke low on on the
> heel.
> >
>
> Mark
> >
> > Bernie Baymiller wrote:
>
>
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > What are
your objectives and preferences for your irons? What kind of
>
look
> > > do you like? How far do you want to hit a 7-iron
and a PW? What are your
> > > directional tendencies? Cost
parameters?
> > >
> > > If you like the look and
feel of blades, the semi-cavity back Chicago
> 944C
> >
> is hard to beat. Hits solid and long with the right graphite
>
shafts...like
> > > Apache PM-30s.
> > >
>
> > If you like cavity backs with low offset, Hireko's Acer
XDS2
> Professional is
> > > a quality-made, solid
hitting head that looks much more expensive than
> it
> >
> is. PW is slightly delofted at 46�.
> > >
> >
> If you like cavity backs and are a fader who is helped by offset
and
> needs
> > > distance in the short irons, Hireko's
Catapult STS is another quality,
> low
> > > cost head
with a low cg and is considerably delofted for the 7 through
>
the
> > > PW (44�).
> > >
> > > I'm
playing the Catapult STS with steel shafts from 8-PW and the
Chicago
> > > 944s from 4 through 7-iron with Apache
graphites. The combo works well
> for
> > > me, since I
have a slightly outside-in swing and tend to launch my short
> >
> irons higher than normal.
> > >
> > > Others
that seem to play well for my customers: Dynacraft PC-3 has three
>
> > different lies available. Golfworks CER 551 plays OK. Check out
golf
> club
> > > review for some others. http://www.golfclubreview.com/componen2.htm
>
> >
> > > Bernie
> > > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 3:44 PM
> > > Subject:
ShopTalk: was Test now iron heads
> > >
> > > >
oops
> > > > quiet I meant
> > > >
>
> > > Looking for opinions on your fav iron head and why.
>
> > > My house was robbed the other day, and one of the many
things taken
> was
> > > > my
> > > >
clubs. Being that it is slow, lets open up a thread on fav iron
heads
> > > > and
> > > > the whys behind
it.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > >
>
> > > > "Mark A. Patton" wrote:
> > >
>
> > > > > Test
> > > > > Been
real quite here
> > > > >
> > > > >
Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> >
> >
> >
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