Mark, Then, the Catapult STS would be a good one to look at. The offset is even 4mm in the PW.
Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: was Test now iron heads > You know whats unique here: I never at anytime think of wrist cock. I feel like > I am blocking the ball most of the time (retarding wrist cock/release as I am > afraid of the death hook). My swing has been describe as flat though not w/ > short irons. > > We're getting more towards a fitting here (and I appreciate it as we all make > our own worst DR). To give a reference as far as distance relative to height. > Avg 5 iron is 180. SW is 110 and SKY HIGH! Head is a verified 56* loft. 8 iron > is also a verified 40* and good for a SKY HIGH 150 yd shot. Most recent previous > heads used were Chicago 944 DBs and Toski Classics. > > Here's the kicker, I am looking at a try at a higher offset, COG moved back set. > While sounding crazy: > A: I demoed a set I made and had unique results, (Figured it was the newness of > the offset) > B: I need to try something else I am working on currently requiring (easiest > method) a GS iron head. Those that are fitting for this experiment are high > offset. > > Mark > > Bernie Baymiller wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > Well, sounds like you're taking the club back inside too much. I'd work on > > taking the club straight back from the ball without breaking your wrists. > > Going straight back will force your upper body to turn about 90�. Keep the > > back of your left hand almost vertical and when your backswing gets about > > waist high, cock your wrist straight up, keeping the wrist-to-hand area flat > > as it started. The club should go up between your head and right shoulder, > > club head hanging down and shaft pointing nearly at the target. If you take > > the club too much inside on the backswing, the head gets behind your body > > and too flat. Then, you have to really roll the right hand, throwing the > > club over the top to make any contact, your body is ahead and the result is > > a pull hook. > > > > The Acer XDS2 Pros might be a head you'd like better than the Catapult STS, > > because they have almost no offset. If your short irons are too high, you > > might look at some of the delofted style heads, which include: > > Avocet from Mirage, GV Back and KS Tour from Diamond Tour, PS Series 3 from > > Streamline, and there are probably a few others out there. These are > > generally low cg irons, so even though they are delofted to 43� and 44� PWs, > > they still hit the ball almost a normal height, but about 10-15 yards > > farther than normal lofts. Have no idea of the quality of these heads, but > > the Acer XDS2 Pros are good ones (though only delofted to a 46� PW). > > > > Bernie > > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: was Test now iron heads > > > > > Bernie, I appreciate your response. What I was trying to do is solicit: > > > A: 1st some traffic here > > > B: an idea of what people are playing and why > > > > > > As far as your questions: > > > With this new set, I may be trying heads outside the norm of what I > > prefer, and > > > also what common knowledge leads to. > > > > > > I have an awful tendency to pull irons (as well as all other clubs), and > > when I > > > do not, I still hit a hook. Swing path is distinctly inside to outside., > > > Historically I have preferred to play minimal offset heads (Chicago 944DB > > and > > > Toski Classic). Traj has been messed up by my awful swing. In the past. > > All > > > shots were high, now only short irons are high (when I say high, I mean > > NASA > > > picks them up). > > > > > > Thinking of trying some items outside of the norm (ie: an large offset > > with a > > > large cavity back). > > > > > > My tendency is to catch the ball on the downward stroke low on on the > > heel. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > Bernie Baymiller wrote: > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > What are your objectives and preferences for your irons? What kind of > > look > > > > do you like? How far do you want to hit a 7-iron and a PW? What are your > > > > directional tendencies? Cost parameters? > > > > > > > > If you like the look and feel of blades, the semi-cavity back Chicago > > 944C > > > > is hard to beat. Hits solid and long with the right graphite > > shafts...like > > > > Apache PM-30s. > > > > > > > > If you like cavity backs with low offset, Hireko's Acer XDS2 > > Professional is > > > > a quality-made, solid hitting head that looks much more expensive than > > it > > > > is. PW is slightly delofted at 46�. > > > > > > > > If you like cavity backs and are a fader who is helped by offset and > > needs > > > > distance in the short irons, Hireko's Catapult STS is another quality, > > low > > > > cost head with a low cg and is considerably delofted for the 7 through > > the > > > > PW (44�). > > > > > > > > I'm playing the Catapult STS with steel shafts from 8-PW and the Chicago > > > > 944s from 4 through 7-iron with Apache graphites. The combo works well > > for > > > > me, since I have a slightly outside-in swing and tend to launch my short > > > > irons higher than normal. > > > > > > > > Others that seem to play well for my customers: Dynacraft PC-3 has three > > > > different lies available. Golfworks CER 551 plays OK. Check out golf > > club > > > > review for some others. http://www.golfclubreview.com/componen2.htm > > > > > > > > Bernie > > > > Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 3:44 PM > > > > Subject: ShopTalk: was Test now iron heads > > > > > > > > > oops > > > > > quiet I meant > > > > > > > > > > Looking for opinions on your fav iron head and why. > > > > > My house was robbed the other day, and one of the many things taken > > was > > > > > my > > > > > clubs. Being that it is slow, lets open up a thread on fav iron heads > > > > > and > > > > > the whys behind it. > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > "Mark A. Patton" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Test > > > > > > Been real quite here > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
