TFlan,
 
I know what you are saying, but he was saying "he sold the components to the hack".  Different story all together.
 
Cub
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From: tflan
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: What's fair re;selling?

 
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: What's fair re;selling?
 
Hi your own self;-)
I was about to get to your point eventually. I agree 100%. I've had it happen to me only a little differently. I've had guys listen to conversations between me and a customer as to how to do this or that. He'd then go buy components somewhere else, assemble them, and bring them to me for corrective action. Also, I've had guys listening in on conversations with another clubmaker who followed the clubmaker out of the store to get him to build stuff rather than pay me. Unconscionable to be sure.
 
Unethical? Well I must say that ethics stop with customers. They're looking for the best deal. Businessmen are fair game. Dickering, shopping around, lying about who's offering the best deal . . . you name it, I've had it happen. Perhaps the prime example of this occurred when I was working part-time for a high volume shop. The guy sold OEM equipment only, no custom stuff at all, and he did a tremendous repair business. This company grossed nearly a million a year in sales - no exaggeration! Nearly every customer, from buyers of OEM new or used to the guy who wanted a club regripped, shopped, dickered, lied about who sold what for less, argued about prices, returned merchadise they bought because they couldn't hit it, and on and on and on. The owner was a nervous wreck. Customers drove the guy absolutely nuts with their demands for "deals." I didn't have the problem. I just quoted the retail price and let the customer argue with the boss. I'd say fully half of the "regulars" were as crooked as hell. That ration wasn't as great in my shop simply because I absolutely refused to dicker.
 
TFlan
 
 
 

Hi TFlan,
Here's a different spin,
Let's say you have a stick n glue guy walk in your shop and buy iron heads for $55.60 and steel shaft's for $22.00 and grips at a buck ea. while watching you sell the same set for $300.00 and he tells your customer he can do the same thing for $199.00, but you offered the place of business and the demo's to see what he hit the best as well, as a selection of heads and shafts to pick from, this guy would be considered a snake and thrown out of the store and limited to mail order,
I believe as some have said that the line is drawn where it either benefits your business or detracts from it.
If your actions at the range detract from their business than they are UN ethical and if they don't then they are not.
David

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