From: Chris Stricker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 5:22 AM
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Exactly why I don't
play for money.
Uptight low handicappers who think we're all
equal.
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From:
Robert
Devino
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, August
03, 2009 11:27
PM
Subject: Re:
ShopTalk: Favorite Club for
2009
When
you play for money, you play straight up! None of
this handicap thing,
you ain't playing the horses now!
Sincerely,
Robert Devino
14252 Delano St.
Van Nuys,
Ca. 91401
(818) 908-1691
From: Tom
Flanagan <[email protected]>
To: shoptalk <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August
3, 2009 1:29:49
PM
Subject: RE:
ShopTalk:
Favorite Club for 2009
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Hah!
One more thing that occurs to me. I absolutely hate
getting hooked up in
a tournament or in a money game, regardless of the size
of the bet, with a guy
whose handicap is calculated after a few rounds of
"in the leather", 2 o.b's
"gimme a double cuz that's all I can post, no
rooties no divots, toss it out
of a bunker cuz I can't play bunker shots". What
the hell kind of a handicap
can the guy possibly have.
In a "count 'em all" stroke play
tournament that guy is a goner, same
with match play. We have guys here sporting 10's and
11's who can't break 90
if you spot them 10m strokes. Vanity handicaps
galore.
TFlan
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE:
ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:53:56
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Personally
I have no problem with casual or recreational golf – in
fact, playing in
preferred lies events, whether club or league sponsored,
can be a lot of
fun.
I
do have a BIG problem with people who can’t form 2
golf-related sentences
without including their latest handicap, all the while
playing with these
casual rules. Saying you play to a ‘USGA’ 5 (or
whatever) while ‘rolling
it on the fairway’ or playing ‘in the
leather’ is probably the biggest
lie in golf.
From:
[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Tom and Donna
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 4:31
AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ShopTalk:
Favorite Club for 2009
Exactly what I am talking
about! Thanks Tom for
the reply!
TM
Tom Flanagan wrote:
"Recreational golf" is
exactly that. Willie Nelson replied, when asked what par
is on his own golf
course "hell, par is whatever I want it to be".
Tournament, or "serious" golf
is one thing, but when a group of guys who play together
regularly want to
allow preferred lies, 20 clubs, illegal balls or bent
rules, how does that
affect anyone else? It's their game.
We have some "illegal"
tournaments here, as do most every club at which I've
been a member;
"Selective Drives", string tournaments,
pari-mutual betting, calcuttas,
mandatory skins, "mulligans" - the list is
long. Take a look at the large
number of tournament formats that are played and
sponsored by golf
organizations. If you've never played in one
you're missing some fun times.
I certainly don't approve of cheating - I've been
rules chairman,
tournament chairman, handicap chairman, president and
other offices in a few
golf clubs and have always supported the rules. However,
having said that,
what groups of friends do among themselves during a round
of golf has
absolutely nothing to do with me, or anyone else for that
matter.
TFlan
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:28:31 -0500
> From:
[email protected]
> To:
[email protected]
>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Favorite Club for 2009
>
> As a clubmaker
and fitter I seldom post on the forum. I am also a player
> that enjoys
the game rather it is played by the rules of St. Andrews
or
> a
Saturday morning round of laughter, competition, or a
pocket change
>
gambling, it is still golf. Recently some of the senior
players at our
> club decided to it was time to abide by the gospel of
St. Andrews.
Gone
> are the days of gimmes, best ball, inside the rubber,
and just
plain
> fun. All at once, without notice to the membership,
three or
four
> players, decide that Scottish Rule will rule the game
in ALL
play
> regardless of times passed. What was once an exercise
in
relaxation has
> become an iron fisted restriction on fun and
companionship.
>
> With that said I totally agree and support
the rules of golf in every
> way when it comes to tournament play. The
rules were established so
> that the game could retain its integrity
through time and sustain its
> social following. However there is still
room on the course for the
> guys that load up on beer and disturb
players two fairways away. It is
> a game and it will always be just a
game so why not let there be room
> for just a good time. Tournament
play is different and should be
> treated that way. The rules of golf
are simple, just like another set
> of rules for living, not to many to
learn, not to many to follow. The
> problem is that folks try every way
imaginable to bend them for their
> own purpose. Just watch a player on
TV try to get away with ball
> placement during a tournament.
>
> There are very few postings on this forum that I
don't read. I save
the
> ones that I can learn from and even pass on to others
the lessons
I
> learn from. Keep up the postings gentlemen, you are my
teacher.
>
> Tom Mason
>
> Marcello Franchi
wrote:
> > Tom,
> > If my email sent a message like I was in
any way offended by your
> > statements, it was away from my intent
and I apologize for that.
> > English is not my mother tongue, and
probably the tone of my email
> > came out harder than I
wanted.
> >
> > Sorry for that and ciao,
> >
Marcello
>
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