Agreed. So doesn't the British system make more sense? -Don M
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Sean Weijand <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Sean Weijand <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:12 PM > But if you practiced chipping and > putting like a mad man for the week before the tourney and > were able to eliminate 3-4 strokes in your round you > wouldn't be your old handicap would you? Accordingly the > committee should look at your tournament score and adjust > it. > > I liken it to the player who always plays, driver in hand, > trying to bomb it out there 14 times out of 18. Hits the > fairway 40%, 3 - 4 penalty strokes a round who changes to a > 3 wood or a 3-iron for tournament play and hits the fairway > 80% of the time no penalty strokes. > > To me this is classic sandbagging. > > I know it happens all the time and probably guys don't > think they're sandbagging but how many times do you hear, "I > have my tournament game and my regular game" It's not that > they're writing in wrong scores etc. just that they take > advantage of the system. > > This is why handicap committees have to be super vigilant > and have to be tough to ensure fair competition. > > sean > > > > > > > On 6-Aug-09, at 9:54 AM, Don M wrote: > > > > > But as was pointed out, if a guy who doesn't practice > much decides to get serious about a tourney, he can improve > quickly. Not everyone, but some people can. I > know I could, by practicing my short game. When I do, > I improve. But usually I'm too lazy or busy, you > pick. It's much easier to just complain and moan about > my short game. :) > > > > -Don M > > > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Sean Weijand <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> From: Sean Weijand <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 11:14 AM > >> The odds of shooting substantially > >> below your handicap. > >> > >> http://www.usga.org/handicapping/articles_resources/Odds-of-Shooting-an-Exceptional-Tournament-Score/ > >> > >> The chart says you had a 1 in 7246 chance of this > >> happening. > >> > >> Given your 'cap and your scores you should have > spent the > >> night after the tourney celebrating a once in a > lifetime > >> achievement. > >> > >> sean > >> > >> > >> On 6-Aug-09, at 8:39 AM, Eric Schoonmaker wrote: > >> > >>>> From: "Childers, Tedd A" <[email protected]> > >>>> > >>> > >>>> If someone shoots more than 2-3 strokes > lower than > >> their handicap in 2 > >>>> consecutive tournament rounds, they are > 100% a > >> sandbagger. > >>> > >>> Well, this is sort of extreme. Also, if > you are > >> playing a set of tees where the course rating is > >> substantially lower than par then you will shoot > your course > >> hdcp or better probably a fair amount of the > time. > >> Conversely if you play the tips, and that course > rating is > >> say 6 strokes higher than par then you might NEVER > shoot > >> your hdcp (relative to par). > >>> > >>> In 2000, at a major tournament at my club, i > shot > >> 79-77 for the weekend as a 14 hdcp. Par 71, > course > >> rating was 70.2 at the time. I would be ok > if you said > >> i was 99% chance sandbagger based on that but at > least in my > >> case - it wasnt 100%. > >>> > >>> BTW - i came in 2nd. A 9 hdcp shot 76-74 > that > >> weekend.... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila > Voodoo. > >>> Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. > >> Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ > >> > > -- > > Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. > > Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ > > > -- > Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. > Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ > -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/
