On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Byron Ellacott <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> When did the WG reach consensus on adopting this draft?

when it spent ~50 mesasages discussing it?
it seems that, even if we abandon it in the end, discussing this over
a draft is a good thing to do.

> Thanks,
>   Byron
>
> On 13/10/2012, at 12:53 AM, Christopher Morrow <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> Helo,
>> Since we've been through this for a while (originally) and this has
>> been quiet for ~1 month... let's call this done and move to the next
>> step.
>>
>> 1) there was lots of discussion on the topic at hand
>> 2) lots of that discussion was not about acceptance/rejection of the
>> idea into the WG
>> 3) lots of people contributed
>>
>> I do think we should continue to have this discussion more officially
>> around a draft, the wg discussion leads me to believe this is the
>> right course... can the authors spin a newly named version and we can
>> start discussing the topic / changes?
>>
>> I think if, in the end, the wg decides to abandon the work that's also
>> fine, but we should have a more structured chat about the topic, that
>> happens around a draft.
>>
>> -chris
>> co-chair
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Murphy, Sandra
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Speaking as wg co-chair
>>>
>>> Of course revision and new request for acceptance is possible.
>>>
>>> Even arguing some more leading to acceptance of draft as is is a 
>>> possibility.
>>>
>>> Some commentors specifically requested that the discussion be added to some 
>>> existing draft.
>>>
>>> Trying to judge wg desire of a way to proceed.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Sandy
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Andy 
>>> Newton [[email protected]]
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>
>>> To: Murphy, Sandra; Alexey Melnikov; [email protected]
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are the chairs not allowing the draft authors to address the issues and try 
>>> again?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: <Murphy>, Sandra <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:10 PM
>>>
>>> To: Alexey Melnikov <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Speaking as wg co-chair:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Certainly a very lively acceptance call!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The chairs do not see that there was consensus that the wg should adopt 
>>> this draft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But there was ample evidence that the wg was interested in the issue - by 
>>> the wg spending lots of time discussing the issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So that leaves the chairs with an ambivalent message.  The wg is very 
>>> interested in the topic but not in adopting a draft that would record any 
>>> decisions about the topic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What would the wg like to do now?  Particularly those who disagreed with 
>>> the content of the draft - if you would dislike the recommendations, are 
>>> you OK with no recommendations instead?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>>
>>> [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Alexey Melnikov 
>>> [[email protected]]
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 2:12 PM
>>>
>>> To:
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> Subject: [sidr] WG acceptance call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On behalf of SIDR WG chairs I would like to initiate 2 weeks acceptance 
>>> call for draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting starting from today, August 4th. 
>>> Please
>>> send your positive or negative feedback to the mailing list or directly to 
>>> chairs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Alexey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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