Agreed.  I do agree that there needs to be some protections to avoid abuse
of the last /8 resources, but, there seems to be a policy failure elsewhere
in APNIC in relation to the evaluation of M&A which is allowing abusive
transactions to occur.


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On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Rajesh Panwala <raj...@smartlinkindia.com>
wrote:

> I partially support the policy. For genuine M&A cases , there should not
> be any restriction on transfer of resources. M&A activities are part and
> parcel of routine business and no one knows when will it take place.
>
> regards,
>
> Rajesh Panwala
> For Smartlink Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
> +91-9227886001
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Bertrand Cherrier <
> b.cherr...@micrologic.nc> wrote:
>
>> Dear SIG members,
>>
>> The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
>> been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>>
>> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
>> Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.
>>
>> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
>> before the meeting.
>>
>> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
>> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
>> express your views on the proposal:
>>
>>  - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>>  - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>>    tell the community about your situation.
>>  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>>  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>>  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
>>    effective?
>>
>> Information about this proposal is available at:
>>
>>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
>> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>>
>> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Proposer:        Alex Yang
>>                  yang...@126.com
>>
>>
>> 1. Problem statement
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in
>> the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep
>> 2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8
>> block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.
>>
>> However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
>> Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The
>> community was not aware of the restriction when they received those
>> resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to
>> transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered,
>> there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC
>> Whois data.
>>
>>
>> 2. Objective of policy change
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.
>>
>>
>> 3. Situation in other regions
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> No such situation in other regions.
>>
>>
>> 4. Proposed policy solution
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> “Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
>> which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment”
>> should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14
>> Sep 2017.
>>
>>
>> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Advantages:
>>
>> - Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC
>>   Whois data correct.
>>
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>>
>> None.
>>
>>
>> 6. Impact on resource holders
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources
>> were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
>>
>>
>>
>> 7. References
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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