Tsurumaki-san, thank you for your feedback from the Japanese Open Policy Forum 
on prop-120 and 123 

Cordialement,
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> Le 14 févr. 2018 à 13:58, Satoru Tsurumaki 
> <satoru.tsurum...@g.softbank.co.jp> a écrit :
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum Steering Team.
> 
> I would like to share a feedback in our community for prop-123,
> based on a meeting we organised on 31st Jan to discuss these proposals.
> So please note that these comments are not reflect the discussion
> after 31 Jan on this mailing list.
> 
> 
> Many opposing comments were expressed on the proposal with reasons below.
> 
> - Since all policies are applied retroactively, there is no reason
>   to exclude it only for prop-116
> 
> - Even if the proposal aims to relieve the entities those who made
>   genuine M&A, it would not be able to be distinguished from
>   intentional M&A for receiving a large number of IPv4 address.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Satoru Tsurumaki
> JPOPF-ST
> 
> 
> 2018-01-26 12:27 GMT+09:00 Bertrand Cherrier <b.cherr...@micrologic.nc 
> <mailto:b.cherr...@micrologic.nc>>:
> Dear SIG members,
> 
> The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
> been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
> 
> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
> Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.
> 
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
> before the meeting.
> 
> The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
> important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
> express your views on the proposal:
> 
>  - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>  - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>    tell the community about your situation.
>  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
>    effective?
> 
> Information about this proposal is available at:
> 
>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123 
> <http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123>
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
> 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt 
> <https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Proposer:        Alex Yang
>                  yang...@126.com <mailto:yang...@126.com>
> 
> 
> 1. Problem statement
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in 
> the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep 
> 2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8 
> block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.
> 
> However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017. 
> Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The 
> community was not aware of the restriction when they received those 
> resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to 
> transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered, 
> there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC 
> Whois data.
> 
> 
> 2. Objective of policy change
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.
> 
> 
> 3. Situation in other regions
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> No such situation in other regions.
> 
> 
> 4. Proposed policy solution
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> “Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
> which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment” 
> should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14 
> Sep 2017.
> 
> 
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Advantages:
> 
> - Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC 
>   Whois data correct.
> 
> 
> Disadvantages:
> 
> None.
> 
> 
> 6. Impact on resource holders
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources 
> were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
> 
> 
> 
> 7. References
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
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