Hi Skeeve and all,

Ahead of the upcoming policy SIG, I'd like to share more info about how APNIC secretariat evaluates M & A requests. As part of our due diligence check, we have the procedure to verify the
authenticity of the M & A request documentations received. Circumstances
where it's obvious to APNIC that the transaction is fraudulent or
fabricated, to the best of our knowledge, APNIC will reject the transfer
request and terminate membership as per the Membership agreement.

M & A can take many forms and it's difficult for APNIC to be the sole
arbitrator to judge the motivations behind and decide if it is in good
or bad faith.

thanks

George

On 1/2/18 2:42 am, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Agreed.  I do agree that there needs to be some protections to avoid
abuse of the last /8 resources, but, there seems to be a policy failure
elsewhere in APNIC in relation to the evaluation of M&A which is
allowing abusive transactions to occur.


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On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Rajesh Panwala
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I partially support the policy. For genuine M&A cases , there should
    not be any restriction on transfer of resources. M&A activities are
    part and parcel of routine business and no one knows when will it
    take place.

    regards,

    Rajesh Panwala
    For Smartlink Solutions Pvt. Ltd.
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    On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Bertrand Cherrier
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Dear SIG members,

        The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
        been sent to the Policy SIG for review.

        It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
        Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.

        We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the
        mailing list
        before the meeting.

        The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
        important part of the policy development process. We encourage
        you to
        express your views on the proposal:

         - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
         - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
           tell the community about your situation.
         - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
         - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
         - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
           effective?

        Information about this proposal is available at:

           http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123
        <http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123>

        Regards

        Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
        APNIC Policy SIG Chairs

        https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt
        <https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt>

        -------------------------------------------------------

        prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy

        -------------------------------------------------------

        Proposer:        Alex Yang
                         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>


        1. Problem statement
        -------------------------------------------------------

        Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in
        the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep
        2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8
        block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.

        However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
        Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The
        community was not aware of the restriction when they received those
        resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to
        transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered,
        there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC
        Whois data.


        2. Objective of policy change
        -------------------------------------------------------

        To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.


        3. Situation in other regions
        -------------------------------------------------------

        No such situation in other regions.


        4. Proposed policy solution
        -------------------------------------------------------

        “Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
        which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment”
        should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14
        Sep 2017.


        5. Advantages / Disadvantages
        -------------------------------------------------------

        Advantages:

        - Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC
          Whois data correct.


        Disadvantages:

        None.


        6. Impact on resource holders
        -------------------------------------------------------

        Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources
        were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.



        7. References
        -------------------------------------------------------


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