> On Sep 2, 2023, at 03:36, Lu Heng <[email protected]> wrote: > > When PDP have such vast impact on the internet, such model will not work > well, a good example here is you being a good person, but hugely disconnected > from the real will of the community. > > And I understand how things started, it make perfect sense 30 years ago while > internet was made of few nerds. > > It is not today. > > Just like you can not leave your nation’s law making system to “whoever want > to participate”, so does PDP.
I actually think that the law making system would be improved if it were open to whoever wants to participate. Owen > > > > On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 at 18:31 jordi.palet--- via SIG-policy > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Nobody needs to be elected to participate in the PDP, nobody needs to be >> elected to contribute to improve things in any aspect of the community. It >> is just a matter of willingness to do the right thing, never mind you don’t >> have a personal or business interest on that. >> >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> @jordipalet >> >> >>> El 2 sept 2023, a las 12:24, Lu Heng <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>> >>> Law maker are elected representative of majority population. >>> >>> Jordi, remind me who elected you? >>> >>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 at 18:20 jordi.palet--- via SIG-policy >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Ignorance of the law doesn’t mean you’re bind to it. Same here. >>>> >>>> The PDP is open to all, is not about 20 or 2.000.000 people. All Internet >>>> users on the earth can participate, is not an exclusive club. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jordi >>>> >>>> @jordipalet >>>> >>>> >>>>> El 2 sept 2023, a las 12:13, Lu Heng <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ignorance does not constitute consensus. >>>>> >>>>> And that is the fundamental problem of this list, a small group of people >>>>> think they can represent all internet user on earth. >>>>> >>>>> No, you can not, policy pass here does not reflect true community wish, >>>>> policy pass here only reflect the consensus of people participating in >>>>> the discussion, in which by my count, only 20 people? >>>>> >>>>> People haven’t pay attention or don’t care, does not mean they agree what >>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 at 18:09 Lu Heng <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> Standard form contract favors the party who not doing the drafting. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I would say many members disagree, a simple questionnaire to members >>>>>> “do you want to own your IPs?”receives overwhelming positive answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> And it’s just a policy of a private limited company. >>>>>> >>>>>> It does not constitute law. >>>>>> >>>>>> And this part of policy need to be changed and updated in the future to >>>>>> reflect the market reality. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 at 18:05 jordi.palet--- via SIG-policy >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Existing policies, with the consensus of the community, which are part >>>>>>> of the membership agreement and consequently accepted by all the >>>>>>> members: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4.0. Resource License >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is contrary to the goals of this document and is not in the >>>>>>> interests of the Internet community as a whole, for Internet number >>>>>>> resources to be considered freehold property. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Neither delegation nor registration confers ownership of resources. >>>>>>> Account holders that use them are considered “custodians” rather than >>>>>>> “owners” of the resource and are not entitled to sell or otherwise >>>>>>> transfer that resource to other parties outside the provisions in this >>>>>>> document. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Internet resources are regarded as public resources that should only be >>>>>>> distributed according to demonstrated need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The policies in this document are based upon the understanding that >>>>>>> globally unique unicast address space is licensed for use rather than >>>>>>> owned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Jordi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @jordipalet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El 2 sept 2023, a las 11:59, Lu Heng <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Jordi: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who define those legal rights? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who said it is not a property? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 at 17:55 jordi.palet--- via SIG-policy >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Really ugly and unfortunate that you compare those things, and I >>>>>>>>> guess against code of conduct. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just can insist that you can’t sell something that is not a >>>>>>>>> property. You have the usage rights. You can own a house or have the >>>>>>>>> right to use it (rental), and the right to use it may allow you to >>>>>>>>> transfer that right to another person or not. So not the same >>>>>>>>> reselling that transferring addresses, is not just a matter of >>>>>>>>> wording, but about the real meaning of those words, from a legal >>>>>>>>> perspective. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Jordi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @jordipalet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> El 2 sept 2023, a las 11:43, Lu Heng <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Jordi: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tell me the difference between reselling and transferring? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does it equal to the 500 USD someone paid to the girl he met last >>>>>>>>>> night? Of course it’s not prostitution, just little goodwill. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nominally a transfer involve that 500USD I just mentioned. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 at 17:39 jordi.palet--- via SIG-policy >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> It is true that RIPE is too liberal, but not so to allow reselling >>>>>>>>>>> addresses, because those aren’t a property. You can transfer them. >>>>>>>>>>> That’s it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Jordi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @jordipalet >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> El 30 ago 2023, a las 10:40, Lu Heng <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jordi: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That must be a long time ago. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> RIPE's current policy is you ask you get, no need to provide a >>>>>>>>>>>> reason. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course that means you can get IP for leasing, you can even get >>>>>>>>>>>> IP for resale. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 16:32, jordi.palet--- via SIG-policy >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no inaccuracy on the RIPE point. Long time ago I made >>>>>>>>>>>>> the question to RIPE staff and a justification on an original >>>>>>>>>>>>> request for IP resources for leasing will not have been accepted >>>>>>>>>>>>> as a valid one. Not talking about transfers here, just original >>>>>>>>>>>>> justification of the need. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Working in a new version following all the inputs. Tks! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @jordipalet >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> El 22 ago 2023, a las 16:19, Mike Burns <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The revised Section 3 contains the same inaccuracy that I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pointed out before in other fora to the authors. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notably the situation described in RIPE below is false. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIPE only applies needs-tests to inbound inter-regional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfers, and in this case leasing them out is a justified use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don’t accept my assertion, I invite you to contact RIPE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can the authors provide a succinct problem statement that states >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the problem we are trying to solve? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one I can see is the claim that there is an existing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “security problem” on the Internet related directly to blocks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being used outside the registrant’s “immediate physical control.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the proposal would be easier to understand if it was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplified to something like “Addresses may only be utilized by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> networks that the registrant has immediate physical control of.”? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because then it would be easier to block and filter content, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making it safer for the community? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Burns >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 7:30 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [sig-policy] Re: New version: prop-148 Clarification - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretariat Impact Assessment: prop-148-v004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> APNIC notes that this proposal suggests explicitly stating in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> APNIC Internet Number Resources policy document that leasing of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addresses is not permitted in the APNIC region. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Questions/Comments: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Can the authors provide a clear definition of what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'leasing'? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - How do the authors propose APNIC verifies that IP addresses >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being leased and how often do they suggest APNIC should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Does this proposal apply to all existing delegations or only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addresses delegated after the proposal is implemented (if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaches >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consensus)? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - How does this proposal apply to account holders who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously >>>>>>>>>>>>>> received delegations and use the IP addresses under different >>>>>>>>>>>>>> entities >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (for example, subsidiaries using them in different locations)? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Implementation: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This proposal may require changes to APNIC systems. If this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaches consensus, implementation may be completed within three >>>>>>>>>>>>>> months. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/08/2023 2:59 am, Shaila Sharmin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear SIG members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new version of the proposal "prop-148-v004: Clarification - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable" has been sent to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy SIG for review. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Information about earlier versions is available from: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-148 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Do you support or oppose the proposal? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find the text of the proposal below. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bertrand, Shaila, and Anupam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prop-148-v004: Clarification - Leasing of Resources is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez ([email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amrita Choudhury ([email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fernando Frediani ([email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Problem statement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIRs have been conceived to manage, allocate and assign >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to need, in such way that a LIR/ISP has addresses to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to directly connect its customers based on justified need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Addresses are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, therefore, a property with which to trade or do business. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the justification of the need disappears or changes, for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons, the expected thing would be to return said addresses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIR, otherwise according to Section 4.1. (“The original basis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegation remains valid”) and 4.1.2. (“Made for a specific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer exists, or based on information that is later found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> false or incomplete”) of the policy manual, APNIC is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforced to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> renew the license. An alternative is to transfer these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the appropriate transfer policy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the leasing of addresses is authorized, contrary to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spirit of the policies and the very existence of the RIRs, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between connectivity and addresses disappears, which also poses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems, since, in the absence of connectivity, the resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holder who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has received the license to use the addresses does not have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physical control to manage/filter them, which can cause damage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it should be made explicit in the Policies that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resources should not be leased “per se”, but only as part of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connectivity service, as it was documented with the original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justification. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The existing policies of APNIC are not explicit about that, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current policies do not regard the leasing of addresses as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they are not an integral part of a connectivity service. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specifically, the justification of the need would not be valid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocks of addresses whose purpose is not to directly connect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an LIR/ISP, and consequently the renewal of the annual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> license for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the use of the addresses would not be valid either. Sections >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Address ownership), 3.2.7. (Address stockpiling) and 3.2.8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Reservations not supported) of the policy manual, are keys on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue, but an explicit clarification is required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Objective of policy change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite the fact that the intention in this regard underlies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy Manual text and is thus applied to justify the need for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources, this proposal makes this aspect explicit by adding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate clarifying text. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Situation in other regions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be presented as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is currently mentioned in RIPE about this and it is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable as a justification of the need. In AFRINIC and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LACNIC, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff has confirmed that address leasing is not considered as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the justification. In ARIN it is not considered valid as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justification >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A similar proposal is under discussion in LACNIC and ARIN. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Proposed policy solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.8. Leasing of Internet Number Resources >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the case of Internet number resources delegated by APNIC or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a NIR, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the justification of the need implies the need to use on their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure and/or network connectivity services provided to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers. As a result, any form of IP address leasing is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unacceptable, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nor does it justify the need, unless otherwise justified in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request. Even for networks that are not connected to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leasing of IP addresses is not permitted, because such sites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can request >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct assignments from APNIC or the relevant NIR and, in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPv4, use private addresses or arrange market transfers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APNIC should proactively investigate those cases and also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initiate the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigation in case of reports by means of a form, email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other means developed by APNIC. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any form of leasing, regardless of when the delegation has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issued, is confirmed by an APNIC investigation, it will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy violation and revocation may apply against any account >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are leasing or using them for any purposes not specified in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial request. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advantages: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fulfilling the objective above indicated and making the policy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disadvantages: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Impact on resource holders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. References >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/proposals/2022/ARIN_prop_308_v2/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2022-2/language/en >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaila Sharmin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +8801811447396 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIG-policy - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIG-policy - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ********************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>> IPv4 is over >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you ready for the new Internet ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theipv6company.com <http://www.theipv6company.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The IPv6 Company >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This electronic message contains information which may be >>>>>>>>>>>>> privileged or confidential. 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