On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 10:39:10AM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

> >Is there any science fiction based on the premise of fossil fuels
> >having run, and the world returning, perforce, to the much slower pace
> >of pre-electricity/ pre-petroleum communication/travel? Is there any

Returning with many a nuclear flash, and a population crash, no
doubt. Even in absence of conflicts for resources, no nitrogen
fixation and deteriorated soil is going to send population
density levels to the only sustainable: hunter-gatherer.

> >speculation about how the present-day population would   manage in
> >such a scenario?
> 
> Why SF - there are enough (relatively) sober, serious discussions 
> about this. This is being presented as a likely scenario, NOT as fiction.

Of course it's fiction, there's plenty of uranium, thorium, natural gas,
coal, kerogen and oil sands to last for hundreds of years -- meanwhile,
photovoltaics is about a decade away from crossover (with a fossil price
hike the crossover will come considerably sooner), wind is beyond crossover,
and there are many other renewable sources.

There's 1.3 kW/m^2 of free wireless fusion power 24/7/365 just outside
the atmosphere. Burning dead dinos is as silly as using whale oil to
light your rooms.
 
> For example:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubbert_peak
> http://www.theoildrum.com/
> http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/

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