On Friday 13 Jul 2007 9:58 am, Charles Haynes wrote:
> But national, religious, ethnic or cultural borders are necessarily
> fluid in time and space. It's all too easy to pick the time and place
> that suits one's agenda. Unfortunately it's also easy for people who
> disagree with you to pick equally convincing times and places that
> support their views.

In fact I believe the Greeks called the Sindhu river the Indus - and the 
Al-Hind part was a later derivative

None of these factors mitigates or removes the fact that the people of  the 
geographic region that "outsiders" callled India held sacred certain 
geographic regions and features which became part of their folklore. 
Pilgrimages or travel to these places were never barred by visas or entry 
restrictions, and roads and rest areas and towns existed en route. Al these 
areas found mention in the folklore, ritual and holy books (if you like) of 
India.

I believe that your original question was "was there actually any "inside" 
there?"

The answer to that is, there was an "inside" insofar as the relationship the 
people had to the places they held sacred.

The unity of post 1947 India as a nation was not thought possible by some, but 
the role of history in uniting the people in India in terms of what is held 
sacred and part of an Indian identity goes unrecognised by many - usually 
"outsiders". Not that it matters. Just because someone else does not believe 
that a Tamilian can find Badrinath or Kashi sacred does not mean that it is 
not.

I believe both Vivekananda and Gandhi recognized this and utilized this 
eminently utilizable unifying factor. t is still used as a unifying principle 
in modern India. The Brits chose to believe that there was disunity based on 
their worldview of the social and military-economic structure of nation 
states that they sound in India. They were not wholly correct.

shiv

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