Hi Wayne. I have to respond to your post, as follows: > They do not think, they have no logic, no reasoning, no analytical > ability, do not worry or arrive at decisions.
**** My husband and I are owned by a Peke-A-Poo dog, name of Maddie. One of the things she seems to enjoy doing is chewing on a particular rubber bone -- but only when my husband and I are in the same room at the same time -- usually in the mornings when we're having coffee, or in the evenings when we're watching TV. Last night we both happened to go to bed at about the same time. I was in bed first, watching a TV program and Maddie was with me. Sig came to bed before the program was over and watched the end of it with me. Immediately, Maddie leaped to her feet -- gave us a hard stare -- jumped down off the bed and ran out of the bedroom. A minute later she ran back in and jumped back up on the bed carrying her rubber bone -- and proceeded to lay down and have a good *chew*. Now -- if you follow this sequence, she *thought* that we were both in the same place, she *reasoned* that we were going to stay there and *arrived at the decision* that it would be a good time to do some serious bone-chewing. And in order to get the bone, she had to *analyze* where she left it last time she used it. And if you don't think that animals worry, you need to be nearby when I'm driving through a parking lot looking for a parking space and Maddie figures out that I'm going into a store and she can't come with!! She starts complaining before I've even found a place to park the car. > Everything they do is either instinctive or a learned action. **** I think that my comments above indicate that this statement is untrue. > Some fail to have even those two charactistics. **** I agree -- but I think that's rare. > You can whip a dog, beat him until you feel bad about it. > What does he do? Instead of running, he comes crawling to you on his belly. **** I know some women like this. It's called battered-wife syndrome. Like beaten dogs, they simply have no other place to go. It doesn't mean that they're stupid, it means they have no options. > Look at the intelligence of a horse. You can feed him, be nice to him all > his life. Instead of him being thankful and loving, he will bite you, > kick you, and possibly kill you, all for no reason. **** Omigod -- them's fightin' words! If a horse has a loving owner, the horse will be loving as well. The only horse that will bite you, kick you and possibly kill you is one that has felt his life to be threatened -- and he or she is defending themself. Not for no reason, Wayne. I have such a horse in my barn. At least, he was this way when I got him. It took me the better part of two years -- and the use of clicker training (operant conditioning) -- to turn him around. He had learned, in his previous life, that people were something to be feared and kept at a distance. If you met him today, you'd never guess that that was in his past. Horses are not the most intelligent of domestic animals, but they are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. I can only assume, from your remarks, that you have had limited exposure to them. > Fish, ....... someone mentioned pain and suffering of fish. > I won't tell you how they think and reason. Only fisherman understand that. **** Don't know nuthin' bout fishes. > > Actually, the statement I made has been common knowledge for hundreds of > years. **** Common knowledge -- and erroneous. > Animals were put here to be servants and food for humans. **** Hmmmm -- I think animals were put here to be *useful* to us, either as food or as servants or as companions. As proof: Not too many people enjoy eating cats -- and cats aren't servants to anyone or anything!! lol > The fact that they can sometimes be loving companions is a > byproduct and not the original purpose. **** I think that's subjective, Wayne. For you it could be right. For others............................... MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
