On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:50 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

At 07:51 AM 2/5/2008 -0500, you wrote:


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From: <mailto:[email protected]>Ode Coyote
It's also a natural extract when processed, like Monosodium Glutamate,
accurately labeled as a natural flavoring.

You may believe that MSG is harmful, but..it's also unavoidable.
The question is, how much?

Ode
We have a friend living and teaching in the Philippines that is assisting several women with treatment due to kidney shut down from MSG. Seems that use a lot of it over there to flavor due to lack of funds for meats and such. They use fish heads and marinate it in water with MSG for a week or so and then pour that liquid over rice to give the rice flavor. It seems to effect women more than men and a lot of women die young over there.

There is no free medical over there, even veterans. They might be seen by a doctor but they have to buy their medications or they don't get well from what we have been told.

Back in the 30's there was no free medical here either- you had to pay the doctor yourself. Even now there is no free medical- everyone has to pay, just some of us pay insurance companies, who then pay the drs some fraction of what they charge. It does help keep down costs when everyone has to write a check when they show up- it makes you think- do I really need to have this checked out, or can I handle this on my own?

No question that some people have problems with high doses of MSG, myself included, [gives me the shakes and can't sleep] hence the research in how to control intake. Conclusion: Can't be avoided entirely as meats, grains and veggies naturally contain MSG and it's not harmful at those levels, but adding MSG in can.
They probably should stop soaking fish heads in the stuff, you think?

Ode


I tasted it in some seaweed soup I used to make- I think there is more of it in seaweed, and more of it when it is cooked for a long time, like an hour or so. I wonder if kelp bothers you.

Yes, it is more common in the east- my neighbor used to have 3 bowls of white powder next to the stove: salt, sugar, and msg.

msg will counteract the toxins in wasp stings when put on as a paste. It acts in a similar way as the papaya enzyme that also works for that (the stuff in meat tenderizer).

kathryn


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