I wonder if it isn't more a matter of being able to attach it properly
to the animal face-mask apparatus.

Dan

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Malcolm <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Garnet, I'd be interested in knowing how you - or whoever - arrived
> at this conclusion, since the ultrasonic element seems to be about the
> same in the one (only one) I've seen used for animals and the multitude
> I've seen for humans.
>
> My only point is that someone may have been trying to sell something on
> the basis of an advertisement, not facts.  Consider what either of these
> do; the ultrasonic part is to assure the carrier, water, and content are
> not separated by distillation, as in steam, and are effectively
> delivered to the alveoli, not trapped in larger passageways as droplets
> like the whirly bird (for want of a better description) type humidifiers
> make.
>
> The idea that there could be a size of droplet that would be "too small"
> seems suspect, unless the idea was that the medication would be left
> behind by being dropped out or evaporated out of the solution being
> "nebulized" - which I think means "fogged".  And if that were the case,
> it would be useless for most of us warm-bloodeds. Most mammal lung
> tissue is kinda similar when you are talking about the alveolar level -
> has the same job, mainly getting CO2 out of the blood and O2 in; i.e.
> packing an enormous area of very thin tissue in intimate contact with
> the blood on one side and the atmosphere on the other into a reasonably
> compact and protected flexible space.
>
> Considering the minor cost of a used ultrasonic humidifier and the minor
> effort of cleaning and sanitizing it (what else is CS for, after all?)
> why not set aside some presumed (dare I say "nebulous"? <g>) theoretical
> perfection in the interest of getting the job done; the proof's in the
> results, not the ad copy.
>
> One additional note; how many "nebulizers" does a veterinarian have to
> have to treat the numerous mammalian and avian species that come through
> the clinic door?  Give you a clue?  Does me. . . .
>
> HTH,
> Malcolm
>
> On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:01 -0500, Garnet wrote:
>> The issue of droplet size is that there is an optimal size
>> above or
>> below which the medication is not delivered deep into lung
>> tissue.
>>
>> Room humidifiers do not make the same size droplet as a
>> nebulizer.
>>
>> You can research the specs on droplet size or speak to someone
>> who sells various nebulizers and knows the specs.
>>
>> It's been some time ago that I researched this for myself when I
>> was looking at purchasing a nebulizer and many on this list
>> were discussing adapting room humidifiers. If that is all
>> you have
>> then it is better than nothing but an ultrasonic humidifier
>> is not
>> equivalent to an ultrasonic nebulizer. That is my only point.
>>
>> Garnet
>>
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