Plain old feed bag would probably do, huh?  Doesn't have to be an
airtight seal.

On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 16:53 -0500, Dan Nave wrote:
> I wonder if it isn't more a matter of being able to attach it properly
> to the animal face-mask apparatus.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Malcolm <s...@asis.com> wrote:
> > Hi Garnet, I'd be interested in knowing how you - or whoever - arrived
> > at this conclusion, since the ultrasonic element seems to be about the
> > same in the one (only one) I've seen used for animals and the multitude
> > I've seen for humans.
> >
> > My only point is that someone may have been trying to sell something on
> > the basis of an advertisement, not facts.  Consider what either of these
> > do; the ultrasonic part is to assure the carrier, water, and content are
> > not separated by distillation, as in steam, and are effectively
> > delivered to the alveoli, not trapped in larger passageways as droplets
> > like the whirly bird (for want of a better description) type humidifiers
> > make.
> >
> > The idea that there could be a size of droplet that would be "too small"
> > seems suspect, unless the idea was that the medication would be left
> > behind by being dropped out or evaporated out of the solution being
> > "nebulized" - which I think means "fogged".  And if that were the case,
> > it would be useless for most of us warm-bloodeds. Most mammal lung
> > tissue is kinda similar when you are talking about the alveolar level -
> > has the same job, mainly getting CO2 out of the blood and O2 in; i.e.
> > packing an enormous area of very thin tissue in intimate contact with
> > the blood on one side and the atmosphere on the other into a reasonably
> > compact and protected flexible space.
> >
> > Considering the minor cost of a used ultrasonic humidifier and the minor
> > effort of cleaning and sanitizing it (what else is CS for, after all?)
> > why not set aside some presumed (dare I say "nebulous"? <g>) theoretical
> > perfection in the interest of getting the job done; the proof's in the
> > results, not the ad copy.
> >
> > One additional note; how many "nebulizers" does a veterinarian have to
> > have to treat the numerous mammalian and avian species that come through
> > the clinic door?  Give you a clue?  Does me. . . .
> >
> > HTH,
> > Malcolm
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 10:01 -0500, Garnet wrote:
> >> The issue of droplet size is that there is an optimal size
> >> above or
> >> below which the medication is not delivered deep into lung
> >> tissue.
> >>
> >> Room humidifiers do not make the same size droplet as a
> >> nebulizer.
> >>
> >> You can research the specs on droplet size or speak to someone
> >> who sells various nebulizers and knows the specs.
> >>
> >> It's been some time ago that I researched this for myself when I
> >> was looking at purchasing a nebulizer and many on this list
> >> were discussing adapting room humidifiers. If that is all
> >> you have
> >> then it is better than nothing but an ultrasonic humidifier
> >> is not
> >> equivalent to an ultrasonic nebulizer. That is my only point.
> >>
> >> Garnet
> >>
> >> ------------------
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information
> >>
> >> Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
> >>
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