Well, I thought that might be what he was trying to say, but it wasn't said clearly...
Dan On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Marshall Dudley <mdud...@king-cart.com> wrote: > He is referring to the fact that the toxcidity of water is much greater than > the toxcidity of silver in 20 ppm or less EIS. This can be easily confirmed > by reading the MSDS of dihydrogen monoxide. > > Marshall > > Dan Nave wrote: >> >> Ode, you wrote: >> >> "At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too >> toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is >> anywhere close to normal." >> >> What did you mean by this? >> >> Dan >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ode Coyote <odecoy...@windstream.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very >>> interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? >>> >>> EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish >>> home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by >>> manufacturing >>> method....mostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged >>> particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in >>> suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM >>> >>> Pure colloids: >>> Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Protein....a commercially available >>> powder mixed with water....something to stay away from and said to be >>> 1/50th >>> as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them >>> hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating >>> disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the >>> particles IN the bottle. >>> >>> A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by >>> chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the >>> "supplements" >>> field so far and not much known about it...could be made very >>> strong...might >>> be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. >>> Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint >>> additives etc. >>> >>> Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it >>> really >>> is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some >>> at >>> it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. >>> A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] >>> >>> Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic >>> solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be >>> made very strong. >>> >>> While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no >>> biological niche, nor is it a "Heavy Metal" and "normally" is eliminated >>> from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the >>> tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the >>> retained silver "can" cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but >>> even >>> so, it's not a "health issue" as would be too much copper retention. >>> >>> Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, >>> bismuth, >>> mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels >>> high >>> enough to be effective would be quite toxic. >>> Silver is an exception. >>> >>> A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver >>> exposures, but something to bear in mind. >>> At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too >>> toxic >>> to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close >>> to >>> normal. >>> >>> The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium >>> is >>> key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be >>> fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be >>> deficient. >>> Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly >>> common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into >>> Selenium >>> levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. >>> >>> A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be >>> sterilized >>> by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 >>> parts per million did it much faster. >>> >>> Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part >>> is >>> getting it there for an encounter. >>> Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. >>> Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% >>> come >>> out the other end within 28 days. >>> >>> Ode >>> >>> >>> At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for >>>> also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I >>>> notice >>>> that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as >>>> high >>>> as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and >>>> better for you? >>>> Thanks, Kathy >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Dudley" >>>> <mdud...@king-cart.com> >>>> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM >>>> Subject: Re: CS>Minimum amount of CS to prevent disease >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard Goodwin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount >>>>>> and >>>>>> frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc., >>>>>> assuming you are not trying to get over some disease? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm EIS for about 7 years, with >>>>> nary a cold or flu. However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons >>>>> over >>>>> the last couple of years, after switching to 15 to 20 ppm EIS, I have >>>>> discontinued using EIS for prevention, and am taking 5,000 IE of D3 >>>>> instead, >>>>> with similar results, IE no sicknesses with me or my family. I still >>>>> will >>>>> swig some EIS if I get food poisoning, or feel something coming on >>>>> (which >>>>> has not happened yet after switching to the D3). Also for standbys if >>>>> I >>>>> ever do seem to be getting something are olive leaf extract, oreganol, >>>>> Del >>>>> Immune V, MMS, and Vitamin C. >>>>> >>>>> Marshall >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>>> >>>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>>>> >>>>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>>> >>>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>>>> >>>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>>> >>>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
