Brilliant post Ode, I am keeping in case anyone asks if silver is safe again!  
dee

On 3 Dec 2009, at 10:49, Ode Coyote wrote:

> 
> 
>  What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very 
> interesting old guy in Florida named Larry?
> 
> EIS  Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home 
> made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing 
> method....mostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged 
> particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in 
> suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over  20 -30 PPM
> 
> Pure colloids:
> Most 400 PPM is MSP  or Mild Silver Protein....a commercially available 
> powder mixed with water....something to stay away from and said to be 1/50th 
> as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them 
> hiding most of what surface area the particles have.  The protein coating 
> disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the 
> particles IN the bottle.
> 
> A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by 
> chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the "supplements" 
> field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might 
> be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total.
> Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint 
> additives etc.
> 
> Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really 
> is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret.  Some swear by it, some at 
> it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working.
> A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ]
> 
> Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic 
> solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be 
> made very strong.
> 
> While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no 
> biological niche, nor is it a "Heavy Metal" and "normally" is eliminated from 
> the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the 
> tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the 
> retained silver "can" cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even 
> so, it's not a "health issue" as would be too much copper retention.
> 
> Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, 
> mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high 
> enough to be effective would be quite toxic.
> Silver is an exception.
> 
> A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, 
> but something to bear in mind.
> At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to 
> survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to 
> normal.
> 
> The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key 
> to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly 
> rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient.
> Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly 
> common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium 
> levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver.
> 
> A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized 
> by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts 
> per million did it much faster.
> 
> Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters.  The tricky part is 
> getting it there for an encounter.
> Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection.
> Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come 
> out the other end within 28 days.
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>> I


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