Hi Dick,

That may well be true.  I think someone with a knowledge of Raidonics may 
have a qualified opinion.  I used to use mine just for re-heating, 
potatoes, and quick batches of hot water.  Not knowing, I am no longer 
using them for anything.

And this is putting aside the microwave leakage, which is said to 
inductively couple with YOUR DNA  and vibrate it fast enough to break it.

James Osbourne Holmes
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From:   Dick Jaffe [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Sunday, December 05, 1999 9:29 AM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey

After reflecting on your microwave link, I have to conclude that using it 
to
heat distilled water to make CS will probably not be dangerous as I 
maintain
about four bottles of CS at any given time and rotate them so I am always 
using
CS that is several weeks old.  I doubt that whatever dangerous "energy" is
imparted to the water when heating it will persist for that length of time.

Dick

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Blowing up people is not right. Neither is  transmogrification of this
> planet into television sets that don't work anymore.  Eating mother is
> taboo.
>
> I don't buy the...".Well, kill a few here to save thousands
> there"....routine, no matter who tries it, and regardless of the motive 
or
> intent.  Pure Bullshit.   What pisses them the most is Kaczinski  ripping
> off governments prerogative to decide who gets to kill,  who gets killed,
> and for whose purposes.
>
>  If indeed he did it.  How can we know?
>
> As a joke, it made me laugh....
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Dick Jaffe [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:   Saturday, December 04, 1999 8:34 PM
> To:     [email protected]
> Subject:        Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
>
> You know, I'm beginning to think Ted Kaczinski was right!
>
> "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:
>
> > Microwave?   See:
> http://www.dhcour.coe.fr/eng/JUDGMENTS/HERTEL%20ENG.html
> > James Osbourne Holmes
> > [email protected]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Dick Jaffe [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent:   Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:19 PM
> > To:     [email protected]
> > Subject:        Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
> >
> > 1 1/2 hours??  What kind of power source are you using?  What gauge 
.999
> fine
> > silver wire?  I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to make a 
24
> Oz. jar
> > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30
> volt
> > homemade DC generator.  The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer 
reflects
> a
> > viable CS solution.  It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure
> works.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > Robert Ratliff wrote:
> >
> > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the same 
amount
> of
> > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are
> larger.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I
> > > > make my CS in a
> > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar.  I can't recall now who
> > > > gave me that
> > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop.  My 10
> minute
> > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky.
> > > >
> > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dick,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the tip.  I have tried the drop ( I used
> > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS
> > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow.  The
> > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge).
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix
> > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be
> > > > > formed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone want to comment on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bil
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Dick Jaffe <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge
> > > > >
> > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred 
into
> the
> > > > > heated
> > > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes.  I've been
> > > > doing that for
> > > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in
> color, in
> > > > > about
> > > > > > 10 minutes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fred wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon
> > > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Bil
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as
> > > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the
> > > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn
> > > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact
> > > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that 
conditions
> > > > > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating
> uses
> > > > > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution 
and
> > > > > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are 
more
> > > > > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge
> > > > > > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles 
into
> > > > > > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes
> > > > > > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no
> crystals!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [email protected] (took a day off from work today!)
> > > > > > >
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