In a message dated 9/11/00 7:22:53 AM EST, [email protected] writes:

<< Subj:     Re: CS>Re: Generating "Sputtered" HVAC CS
 Date:  9/11/00 7:22:53 AM EST
 From:  [email protected] (Ivan Anderson)
 Reply-to:  [email protected]
 To:    [email protected]
 
 Roger,
 
 Do you have both of your wires in free air, and the arc forms between
 them? 

Ivan: No.

If so, it sounds very much like an arc spray process. 

If one of your wires is in the water and the other in free air, the arc 
forming
 between it and the water, then the process sounds like plasma deposition
 or spray arc, the later if occasionally a molten ball falls from the
 electrode.

Ivan: Your description above is CLOSE to what I observe, but the "sputtering" 
phenomenon goes beyond you're description.
 
Whatever method, you will surely achieve a much more stable arc, with
 out the smoke etc. (which suggests to me that a great deal of oxidation
is occurring) if you shield the arc with an inert gas such as argon or
nitrogen.

Ivan: That old chestnut, Ivan? It can be demonstrated, thermodynamically, 
kinetically, and impirically that silver ain't goin to oxidize under these 
conditions. Let's go down the impirical road, for example. If I choose to, I 
can deposite the silver from the molten ball DIRECTLY to the side of the 
Pyrex container which holds the water bath. I've done this, inadvertantly, on 
more than one occasion. The deposited silver has a mirror finish. So where is 
the oxide?
 
 You may also find that a pulsed DC supply would give you superior results.

Ivan: Superior to what? I form no nitrates/nitrites. I don't even need to 
monitor them (but I still do for added safety), unlike other HVAC CS methods. 
My product is as potent at 1 PPM as it is at 5 PPM, and many people who have 
used it report  excellent results. 
 
Roger
  


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