Ivan;

The presence of air generats hugh quantities of NO3. I have has high as 80
ppm of NO3. CO2 is a better gas blanket.

I test each run for NO3 and they come out less that 1pp and most of the time
zero.

"Ole Bob"

Ivan Anderson wrote:

> Roger,
>
> Do you have both of your wires in free air, and the arc forms between
> them? If so, it sounds very much like an arc spray process. If one of
> your wires is in the water and the other in free air, the arc forming
> between it and the water, then the process sounds like plasma deposition
> or spray arc, the later if occasionally a molten ball falls from the
> electrode.
>
> Whatever method, you will surely achieve a much more stable arc, with
> out the smoke etc. (which suggests to me that a great deal of oxidation
> is occurring) if you shield the arc with an inert gas such as argon or
> nitrogen.
>
> You may also find that a pulsed DC supply would give you superior
> results.
>
> Ivan.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2000 09:57
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Generating "Sputtered" HVAC CS
>
> > In a message dated 9/10/00 12:40:13 PM EST, [email protected]
> writes:
> >
> > << Check the definition of sputtering and of evaporation.  What you
> descripe
> > is
> >  evaporation, and entirely different animal from sputtering.
> Evaporation not
> > only
> >  requires high tempertures, but usually requires a hard vacuum as
> well.
> > Sputtering
> >  happens at any temperature, even room temperature.  It is when
> electrons in
> > an
> >  arc have sufficient energy to knock individual atoms or clumps of
> atoms off
> > the
> >  target material when they hit.
> >
> >  A very good example of sputtering at room temperature is the
> darkening of the
> >  ends of florsecent lamps at the ends, where the tungston is sputtered
> off and
> >  then condenses onto the ends of the glass tubes making them black.
> The
> > tungston
> >  is far below the melting point of tungston when this happens.
> >
> >  Marshall
> >   >>
> >
> > Marshall: I'm sure you're correct in your definition of sputtering.
> However,
> > I still think that what I call "sputtering" may not be evaporation
> because it
> > occurs spontaneously and is way out of proportion to the apparent
> temperature
> > rise of the molten ball. It appears (producing copious sparks and a
> smokey
> > corona) and disappears while the ball is still molten and seems to
> originate
> > from inside the ball exactly where the white hot cross section of the
> beam
> > touches it. Has anyone else observed this phenomenon? Roger
> >
> >
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