Ok... but some questions.  What testing indicates bacterial and viral
killing capacity at 1 ppm?  Doubtless some of the little stinkers would be
effectively inactivated or killed...which ones have you tried your colloid
on?  Is your calculation of the ppm unquestionably correct?  I believe I
could create a water-submerged arc, but a lot of control would be
necessary. What difference "Pulsed" DC would make over AC, which is already
pulsed would be another query I would have. Anyhow, since I have only
roughly copied the CSPro web pictures of a couple of years ago, got my
oil-furnace starter about a year ago, and use the CSPro printouts as
guidelines as to what I am probably producing, I have to respect your
calculations; mine are only guesses. During the last week or so, I decided
to try our well-water instead of the RO water.  I am not sure, in these few
gallons whether the other minerals interfere a lot or very little.  There
is about the same 'low-level' Tyndall effect at four hours 10,000vAC as I
used to get in those accidental 6 and 7 hour batches of RO I occasionally
forgot about. Like some other people, I think that if you can see the light
beam too many of the particles will not get much further than the
bloodstream. Another thing, why would nitrates etc be produced anywhere
except at the water-surface? I'm not ignoring that air is three-forths
nitrogen. Did you test for nitrogen-related products where both AC silver
electrodes were submerged in water about 2 to3 inches apart and the water
was uncapped, or loosly capped?  This might be good for me to
know,presuming I go back soon to the RO water which is slightly
inconvenient to obtain, that is. At 08:55 AM 9/11/00 EDT, you wrote:
Thanks... I really appreciate the existence of this message thread.   Del
>In a message dated 9/11/00 3:15:09 AM EST, [email protected] writes:
>
><< Subj:     CS>Why "spluttering?
> Date:  9/11/00 3:15:09 AM EST
> From:  [email protected] (Del Crow)
> Reply-to:  [email protected]
> To:    [email protected]
> 
> New to this thread. Wondering why the "spluttering" of the silver is
> important to making better colloid.  I'm using 10,000 volts AC--a salvaged
> oil-furnace starter-- and, tho its takes several hours to get 30 ppm (just
> guessing)--it is a half-gallon jar and several days-worth of 'dosage'for my
> wife and I. I figure (still guessing) that using the submerged electrodes,
> since it seems unlikely that there is much current-flow for the first
> couple of hours, that there is very little cost in running the transformer.
> Is this "spluttering" simply an interesting entertainment or can we share
> in the idea behind it.  I did wander through the thread, but guess I missed
> something.
>  >>
>
>Del: I believe there are several important aspects of "sputtered" HVAC that 
>are worth the time of anyone who is interested in using high AC voltage to 
>generate CS. First, you have to guard against generating dangerous levels of 
>silver nitrate when you use the HVAC method in general, and while it IS 
>possible to limit or even eliminate its production, it takes experience AND 
>continuous monitoring of your product (and how many of those who make HVAC
CS 
>have THAT capability?) to ensure that almost all of the silver is present as 
>CS and only a small fraction, at the most, is present as silver nitrate 
>(which CAN, under certain poorly understood conditions, cause Argyria).
>
>Second, since there is good evidence to link significant nitrate (as well as 
>nitrite?) formation to the length of time it takes to generate HVAC CS, any 
>method that can significantly shorten production time is worth looking into, 
>particularly if one can eliminate the need to monitor nitrate formation. 
>Based on my measurements, "sputtered" HVAC CS has the potential to speed up 
>production time between 10X and 50X, and analyses for nitrate and nitrite in 
>several batches of my "sputtered" HVAC CS product demonstrates that these
two 
>unwanted anions are virtually absent.
>
>Third, from time to time, reference has been made to the medicinal benefits 
>of  "structured" or "electrolyzed" water. I continue to be at a loss to 
>explain why my "sputtered" HVAC CS product exhibits a pH in the range of 
>3.5-4.5. I considered many explanations for this low pH, and, over time,
as I 
>continued to gather additional evidence and/or input for other silver list 
>participants, I have rejected all of them, leaving open the possibility that 
>my "sputtered" HVAC CS MAY be benefiting from the formation of "structured 
>water" during production. For example, I have tested my product's potency at 
>1 PPM,and it seems to work as well at that concentration compared to the 
>normally recommended 5 PPM concentration.   Roger   
>
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