In the interest of semantics -- not all the "die off" products of pathogens are toxins. Toxins are injurious to health. But not all detritus / debris from dying or dead pathogens are injurious, however they do present a load that the system must remove.
It may serve to be specific that these "bread down products" are not ALL toxins, in that the term toxin can cause unwarranted fear and we all know about the placebo effect. While detritus can cause a herxheimer, initially defined by Karl Herxheimer, a German dermatologist 1861 - 1942, caused by the release of protein antigens after treatment for syphyllis and causing an allergic reaction, not all detritus causes an adverse reaction. Break down products or "detritus" imply the need to clear the material but does not imply the same level of possible toxic reaction. Perhaps this will reduce the fear some people have of using CS, in the early stages of their exploration of its use, and will serve to encourage them to address the need to clear the detritus by appropriate means. Be it drinking large amounts of pure water, acidifying, blood purifiers, liver and kidney support and cleanses etc. A good discussion of the many methods for aiding the body in clearing the detritus AND toxins of pathogen die off would be a great addition to this list. Garnet ======================= http://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/2641.html Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction A transient inflammatory reaction following treatment with Salvarsan, mercury, or antibiotics of early and later stages of syphilis. ============================= http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/3161.html Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction Also known as: Herxheimer's reaction Associated persons: Karl Herxheimer Adolf Jarisch Description: A transient inflammatory reaction following treatment with Salvarsan, mercury, or antibiotics of early and later stages of syphilis. It is seen in 50% of patients with primary syphilis and about 90% of patients with secondary syphilis. Also seen in other diseases, such as borreliosis, brucellosis, typhoid fever, and trichinellosis. It is manifested by fever, chills, headache, myalgias, and exacerbation of cutaneous lesions. Duration is normally only a few hours. The intensity of the reaction reflects the intensity of inflammation present. Herxheimer observed his reaction on patients he had treated with mercury. ==================================== http://dictionary.reference.com Toxin - A poisonous substance, especially a protein, that is produced by living cells or organisms and is capable of causing disease when introduced into the body tissues but is often also capable of inducing neutralizing antibodies or antitoxins. Detritus - Loose fragments or grains that have been worn away from rock. a. Disintegrated or eroded matter: the detritus of past civilizations. b. Accumulated material; debris: On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 04:27, [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 11/4/04 5:02:30 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > The thing I worry about is not > > the silver doing damage but the neuro toxins produced on the die-off > > doing > > the damage. Slow recovery is better than a fast one if you are > > going to > > cause a large die-off and maybe brain damage due to large neuro > > toxins > > produced by the die-off of the bacteria. > > > Hi Dave. We do see this in the horses being treated for EPM with CS > -- a die-off of the protozoa being dumped into the bloodstream, which > you could consider neuro toxins since the protozoa inhabit > neurological cells -- so they get worse before they get better. But > it doesn't result in brain damage - in fact the horses that have > cerebral lesions invariably get better too. But I agree with you -- > slow recovery is better than a fast one, particularly if you're not > dealing with a life-threatening situation. Frequently, with the > horses, we ARE dealing with a life-threatening situation -- well, > ultimately all EPM horses are life-threatened -- and we don't need to > be being conservative. Just thought you might be a little bit > comforted by the fact that brain damage just isn't part of the > package. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
