CS>Re: H202, CS and cloudiness
From: fredsus1
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 15:44:42
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Hi Susie,
I guess you intended to reply to the group, but ended up sending me
an email. There appears to be nothing personal in your message, so I
will respond to it here, as well as your reply to Robb.
> Hi Mike,
> I started switching anodes, and I use different DW all the time
> although I found that Fred Meyer's has good DW, will probably
> stick with that.
> When I started using the generator, I found that the anodes always
> had black on it that wiped off but never to a sheen which Ode
> Coyote said shouldn't be a problem. Now after switching, both of
> the anodes just have a soft greyish look to them. I wipe them
> after every use.
A soft black coat that wipes off easily is silver oxide. A small
amount is no concern, but if you start getting black spots under the
electrodes, something is wrong.
A clear gray color is plain silver. This is good, but it may
indicate you are not reaching the highest ppm possible. There may be
just a trace of black oxide on the anode at the end of the brew, and
the cathode may be completely clear, or may have a bit of spanish
moss on the bottom. This is composed of silver ions that managed to
make it all the way to the cathode, and are encasing hydrogen
bubbles that form at the cathode.
Thanks to sol for the beautifully descriptive term "spanish moss":)
> I am pretty new to this, I just want to not have to "deal" with
> this (whine, complain ;-).
Please be picky - you really have to be on your toes to get
consistently good cs.
> Does this mean that my CS has too large a particle size?? I don't
> want to be adding more than 1 drop H202 per oz. Don't know that
> much about H202 and internal use anyway.
H2O2 is not needed at all if the cs is made properly.
> Susie
Here is your next message:
> Hi Robb,
> I usually do use a "stirrer". At least that is what ode coyote
> told me the inverted funnel that comes with the generator is for
> and it makes higher ppm.
> I don't turn the gen. off manually, I let it brew and shut itself
> off per manufacterers instructions. I am trying it now without the
> funnel but still a flash of yellow (which I read is supposedly
> normal) then to a slightly milky color which stays that way.
That definitely is not normal. I really think there is something
wrong with the dw.
> I suppose I could add the H202 later on down the line after
> "aging" the CS, but I would have to make and store a lot with the
> rate we go through it. Hubby and I are trying to drink about 8 or
> so oz a day and I make a lot for the dog who has bacterial issues.
Maybe you need a little bigger machine? Or try taking 1 oz
sublingually as described in a related post:
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74805.html
> I wish I didn't have to concern myself with this as what if
> nothing changes? I am just adding the H202 to make a more
> absorbable product. What am I dealing with now if I have a
> slightly cloudy product? Should I NOT add H202?
> Susie
I would recommend not adding H2O2. If the cs is made properly and
the dw is good, the cs is mainly ionic and H2O2 would have no
effect and is not needed, except for diagnostic purposes.
You should be able to reach 20 to 22 ppm ionic on the Silverpuppy
without any problems, and it should remain clear indefinitely. If
you push it much higher by brewing longer, you may start noticing a
pale straw color after a few days or weeks. If you really push it,
you might notice a yellow tint before you stop the brew.
The H2O2 will turn the solution clear, but if you check the Tyndall,
you may notice a strong beam even with clear cs. This indicates
plenty of oxides remain despite the action of the H2O2.
The oxides are inert and have no biological activity, so it is best
if your process does not produce them. But a bright yellow flash
turning to milky cs after adding H2O2 is definitely not normal.
Sol has information on getting higher ppm with the Silverpuppy, and
I really wish she would tell us how she does it.... (hint, hint:)
Best Wishes,
Mike Monett
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