ransley wrote:

> And exactly who is being silly? If you "just go and have a oxygen tank
> filled", do you have any idea how much expense is involved and how much care
> must be taken to insure you don't have a high pressure regulator to fail and
> have a high pressure line lashing your face? Do you realize that you have to
> take every bit as many precautions to avoid contamination in that manner as
> you do otherwise?

I am rather cluless as to what you are saying here.  Lets see, I think it was
about $10 to get my oxygen tank refilled.  Not a lot of money.

Regulators don't just fall off, and if they did, nothing would escape because
you always turn off the cut off valve before moving the tank, in fact you always
have it off unless you are actively using it, so this makes no sense either.

>
>
> If you "just go and have a oxygen tank filled" you have more than a
> miniscule chance of breathing  acetylene or rust. How silly is that?

I don't follow.  Where would the acetylene or rust come from?  Do you mean the
tank?  If there is any acetylene in the tank it would explode upon pressurizing
with oxygen.  It is impossible to put acetelyne in an oxygen tank accidently
since an oxygen tank has left hand threads and an acetylene tank has right hand
threads.  As far as rust, you use a regulator that has a filter on it that will
keep out all particulate matter.

>
>
> Do you even have a clue that you just advised us to do something illegal?

It is not illegal to have an oxygen tank filled at a welding supply company.  If
it were they would not do it. I get mine filled at either Knox welding or
Holstein gas company.

>
> I'll bet there's someone lurking here who won't think that's silly. Not that
> I'm above doing something to suit my own purposes, but I'm sure going to be
> more careful than that!
>

Thus far I have not found anything in your message that is based on fact.

Fact is that neblizing with EIS and air works, and EIS with oxygen works
better.  For simple bronchitis either would probably be fine, but if I was
dieing from pneumonia, I would go for the oxygen.

One does have to be careful if using compressed air.  May air compressors have
oil in them, and the last thing you would want to do is introduce an oil spray
into the lungs that are already under assault.

Marshall

>
> Dan and I, and others, have been carefully discussing all the pros and cons
> of different ways of doing this and the reasons for those different ways. It
> sure is easy to type "quit being silly". Jeez, I coulda saved myself a lot
> of effort.
>
> I started out doing this about 4 years ago full of both trepidation and
> desperation. I've reversed several cases of bronchitis and one case of
> pneumonia since. Ive seen myself, wife and kids rise up from sickness to
> recovery in 24 hours or even less. As I've stated before, I had no access to
> cheap nebulizers when I started, and had to do it this way. I don't intend
> to keep doing it this way forever because as I've already stated, it's
> cumbersome and troublesome, but for me, it's paid for.
>
> Follow the thread, read what's been said and keep your silly to yourself.
>
> Daddybob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CS>Air compressors- filters & dryers
>
> Jeezs, just go and have a oxygen tank filled at the nearest welding supplier
> and forget about compressors and oil and everything else that will
> contaminate your lungs. They are the only lungs you will ever have. Quit
> being silly when it comes to something irreplaceable as your lungs.
> John
>
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