The warmer base provides a hot spot to induce a thermal updraft in the center bottom of the container. Warm water rises, reached the top, spreads out and contacts the cooler sides of the container and sinks back to the bottom. Ideally, the amount of heat the water absorbs will equal the amount of heat shed as the water contacts the container sides and it won't get warmer overall. The result is a doughnut shaped stir pattern that works quite well and isn't so vigorous as to make silver particles impact the electrodes. Too fast a stir velocity makes silver particles impact hydrogen bubbles on an electrode and they get trapped in the surface tension of the bubble making a semi solid / semi conductive coating [ A "beard"] that grows and grows into the direction of the water current. The downside to that system is that the water can cool, spread and sink before it gets to the top if the container is tall. Placing a chimney over the warm spot increases the velocity of the updraft and keeps it centered and channeled so taller containers can be used and still achieve the desired stir pattern.
 A possible downside to that is thermal buildup in the chimney base.
Temperatures over around 110 deg F makes particles collide with enough energy to merge.
Easy  Solution:  Use a cooler bulb, 4 watt rather than 7 watt.


Upside..no moving parts to ever break or wear out. [And it looks pretty glowing in your room] Accidental upside: The CS almost completely stabilizes as it's being made. [Conductivity drop the day after is reduced by about 80%] More recently discovered nicety: Using that thermal chimney setup with a slow cycle low voltage AC generator reduces sparklies and suspended electrode crud chunks better than any other system tried. [Not quite eliminated, but dramatically reduced]

The more recent stir system is like a lab stirrer where a magnet spins under the container and couples with a magnet inside the container. In order to keep the stir velocity down and prevent the bearding effect, a low RPM motor is used. No commercially available lab stirrer will spin that slow. The stir pattern is a cyclonic one...a slow vortex that stirs from the bottom [where the electrode aren't] and up.

Both systems work well and one hasn't superceded the other, but the magnetically coupled system will stir more water at the proper velocity and that velocity can be easily adjusted with spinner size. Downside: It does have moving parts that could eventually wear out. [and it's more expensive]

Stirring from the top down requires a high water velocity to make the vortex reach the bottom in tall containers.
 Stir too fast where the electrodes are and you get a lot of bearding.
It also exposes the stir motor to water vapor that tends to corrode the motor bearings after a year or so. [As I found out the hard way]

With the magnetic system, that's not a problem at all.

Some people use bubblers and they work OK. Bubbles go from bottom to top quite nicely.
 Downside: Any air borne contaminants dissolve into the water quite well.
 High levels of sulphur dioxide can be a big problem with silver. [tarnish]
A small problem is carbon dioxide acidifying the water a little and possible light sensitive silver carbonate formation.

ode


At 12:12 PM 1/9/2006 -0600, you wrote:

I too bought a Silverpuppy a couple of years ago but am still not clear
about the stirring issue.  Mine is one of the light-bulb-warmer base
units.  I see that now there's a more recent evolution that has a magnetic
component to promote circulation.  My question is whether there's a
difference in efficacy in these two methods.  Why the change?

DByron




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