Recent blog story about how much easier it was to trouble shoot with the old buttinski on our hip. http://pbx2sip.com/ There is also a story there about how much market share Open Source has today (or at least January 2009).
And, we forget about those simple tasks of just listening to the audio of a call. If you do a wireshark capture of a call, select VOIP option, and then Graph the call, you can actually listen to the voice call, one side or both sites to get some of the same thing. Butte set on the analog side, and compare it to what you hear at different parts of the network actually tells a nice story sometimes. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:44 PM To: Eric Varsanyi Cc: [email protected] users Subject: Re: [sipx-users] spa3102 for outbound calls Gotcha. I do find it interesting that it behave the exact same way when I dialed. I will put a splitter on the port tomorrow and attach a butt set to listen in. I got your PDF. I will take a look at it. On 2/18/2010 7:31 PM, Eric Varsanyi wrote: > When you connected a phone to the 'telephone' jack on the SPA that was the FXS side, that side cares about dial plans (its the thing that gives dialtone and 'sends' the call on the SIP side when it thinks it has the whole number). For debugging I was suggesting you attach a phone in parallel to the FXO jack (or use a high impedance butt-set) and listen in to see what the timing of the linksys vs the pots line vs you hitting send on the polycom sounds like. The idea is to try to narrow down where the delay is happening. > > I'll send my pdf config in the next email. Sorry for the confusion. > > -Eric Varsanyi > > > On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:13 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > >> This thing has so many 'sides' I have probably said something incorrect at some point. I'm trying to use it as an outbound gateway only. I'm connecting a POTS line to it and want to be able to make outbound calls from sipx over a POTS line. I believe that all falls under FXO. given the different behavior, I'm sure the hint is what I'm missing. i have put a dial plan everywhere I can find to put one. I can't find any email from you with a working config. if you would resend it, that would be great. >> >> On 2/18/2010 6:50 PM, Eric Varsanyi wrote: >> >>> Apologies, I thought you were talking about the FXO side. 2 stage dialing for FXO is (as I understand it from the "docs") where the first portion of the dialing comes in via SIP then the user gets a dialtone from the next hop and dials manually. I didn't pay a lot of attention to that section but I remember lots of options around delays and waiting for dialtone. >>> >>> On the FXS side it makes sense there might be a delay, just like in the Polycoms (and Pattons) you can give the SPA a hint as to what is a 'complete' number and the default hint ends with a timeout after N digits. There's a little script (which I never messed with) in one of the config fields that defines when to 'send' the call. I thought you were trying to get some internal SIP device (like a polycom) to dial out on the FXO side and there was this delay problem there. >>> >>> I thought I sent you the config of my "working" 3102 configuration a while back, the list ate it but I sent it again directly to you. Its just a screen cap of every config page of my unit. Ask me again if you want it offlist and I'll send it directly or post it somewhere you can download it from. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:37 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Do you mean to 2 different places to define the dialing plan? If not, I'm not sure what 2 stage refers to. >>>> I didn't see a PDF you sent. Did I miss something? I can't find anything. >>>> I plugged a handset into the phone port on the SPA, and it behaves the same way when I dial form a handset. >>>> >>>> On 2/18/2010 4:38 PM, Eric Varsanyi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Maybe something related to the 2 stage dialing config? I didn't notice any delays like this using the config I sent in that PDF but I was just thrilled it could make calls at all and might just not have noticed the delay. Maybe plug in a butt-set or a parallel phone and listen for where the delay is to narrow it down (delay seizing line, delay before dialing, delay or slow dialing of digits, ...?). >>>>> >>>>> -Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have everything working except what I assume is a dialing rule problem. >>>>>> As soon as I hit send on the Ploycom, I do see the call transferred to the IP of the SPA. >>>>>> If I have dialed a 11 digit number (1 + area code + xxx-xxxx) the call rings immediately. >>>>>> If I dial a 10 digit number (area code + xxx-xxxx) it starts ringing in about 6 seconds. >>>>>> If I dial a 7 digit number, the call doesn't start ringing for 10 seconds. >>>>>> Nothing I have done with the dialing rule seems to change anything. I'm assuming the PSTN Line is the place I need to change this. Interdigit Short Timer defaults to 5 and Interdigit Short Timer: defaults to 10. After reading what they do, I thought that had to be it for sure. http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/fix-sipura-voip-ata-adapter-interdigit-dialing-d elay/ >>>>>> I tried lowering those. It didn't seem to affect anything. I'm assuming that as soon as it shows the IP on the polycom, the call has been transferred to the SPA, so the change I need to make would have to be in the SPA. Any ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/18/2010 11:55 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I started with an Audiocodes gateway back in October, it was the one model (FXO+FXS) that sipxecs wouldn't configure and the sipxecs configuration stuff for FXO required it to be treated as a homogenous group of ports. Two things led me to return it: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) The documentation and manual configuration of the SPA3102 is pretty good compared to Audiocodes (there were numerous occasions when changing what appeared to be a completely unrelated setting resulted in no dialtone on the FXS side, I think they just internally bail if anything is amiss and give you no diagnostics). >>>>>>> 2) On a brand new unit they wanted me to buy a service contract to get the current firmware and download the manuals (such as they are) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The SPA may be a buggy POS but Audiocodes was at least as frustrating to configure and, as a bonus, it was expensive too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I expect someone using a model supported by sipXecs for configuration would have a better experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I feel your pain, the SPA sure is a PITA to get going. Happy to help if I can, all those hours spent beating my head on the damn thing might as well go to some good :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Eric Varsanyi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This ebay auction is starting to look tempting :) >>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350265531020&rvr_id=&crlp =1_263602_263622&UA=%3F*I7&GUID=d74220781250a0e203017dc1fbe784da&itemid=3502 65531020&ff4=263602_263622 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Audio Codes MP-114 FXO VOIP Gateway - NEW >>>>>>>> US $249.99 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2/18/2010 11:17 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For debugging if you set it up to send syslog messages and turn the level all the way up it sometimes produces semi-useful output. You don't have to have a syslog server set up to catch it if you can run tcpdump or socat. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you can capture traffic to/from the device with tcpdump that's probably the next step if the syslog stuff doesn't pay off (it kind of sounds like either its ignoring you or sipxproxy isn't really sending the invite where you hope its going). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Eric Varsanyi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have no doubt it is a PEBKAC, I just don't where to look. I changed it to 5061 (I now see that setting in the PSTN Line tab on the spa3102). The logs look about the same to me. I don't see anything that even tells me it is making it to the spa3102. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2010 10:54 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When I set mine up late last year the only issue I had making outbound calls (that wasn't PEBKAC) was the thing didn't think there was a line attached and returned something like 'resource not avaiable' to the invite. I had to change the line voltage threshold down in the international settings box to fix this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ah, in the log I see you're using 5060, the FXO side by default is on 5061 (the FXS is on 5060). LIkely that's your issue. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Eric >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:42 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to configure a spa3102 for outbound calls only. I know people pull their hair out over these devices, but I wanted to give it a shot. My only gateways I've worked with so far are sipxbridge and an audiocodes configred from within sipx, so I haven't really done too much manual FXO configuration. >>>>>>>>>>>> I think I may be missing something on the sipx end, because I don't think the call is ever making it to the spa3102. This is a new setup and has no other gateways. I added the spa3102 as an unmanaged gateway. I enabled all the dialing plans and added the gateway. I'm using a polycom 550, Sipx 4.0.4, bootrom 4.2.1, firmware 3.1.3C split. I would show a siptrace, but the merged file doesn't really have anything in it. The sipx server is at 10.81.1.5. The spa3102 is at 10.81.1.6. I tried setting the gateway in sipx to UDP manually (that is what the spa3102 defaults to) and specifying port 5060, but that didn't seem to change anything. There are only 2 logs created, so I attached those. Is there something simple I'm missing? I read through this, http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/HowTo_configure_sipX_to_work_with_FXO /FXS_SIP_Gateways but I don't see anything that sticks out at me. The only thig I thought I might need to do is something in authrules.xml, but I'm still not sure since the text around it refers to FXS and this is FXO. I sort of guess there has to be some some sort of authorization for the spa3102 to know the sipx call can be sent outbound, but I don't know where to do this. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here. I think the fact that I got an audiocodes 8 port working inbound and outbound with no questions (and clearly not much knowledge on the subject) is a testament to how well sipx is able to configure it! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>>>>>>> <sipregistrar.log><sipXproxy.log>___________________________________________ ____ >>>>>>>>>>>> sipx-users mailing list [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users >>>>>>>>>>>> sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <sipregistrar.log><sipXproxy.log> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list [email protected] List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/ _______________________________________________ sipx-users mailing list [email protected] List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users Unsubscribe: http://list.sipfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/sipx-users sipXecs IP PBX -- http://www.sipfoundry.org/
