Gotcha. I do find it interesting that it behave the exact same way when 
I dialed. I will put a splitter on the port tomorrow and attach a butt 
set to listen in. I got your PDF. I will take a look at it.

On 2/18/2010 7:31 PM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
> When you connected a phone to the 'telephone' jack on the SPA that was the 
> FXS side, that side cares about dial plans (its the thing that gives dialtone 
> and 'sends' the call on the SIP side when it thinks it has the whole number). 
> For debugging I was suggesting you attach a phone in parallel to the FXO jack 
> (or use a high impedance butt-set) and listen in to see what the timing of 
> the linksys vs the pots line vs you hitting send on the polycom sounds like. 
> The idea is to try to narrow down where the delay is happening.
>
> I'll send my pdf config in the next email. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> -Eric Varsanyi
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>    
>> This thing has so many 'sides' I have probably said something incorrect at 
>> some point. I'm trying to use it as an outbound gateway only. I'm connecting 
>> a POTS line to it and want to be able to make outbound calls from sipx over 
>> a POTS line. I believe that all falls under FXO. given the different 
>> behavior, I'm sure the hint is what I'm missing. i have put a dial plan 
>> everywhere I can find to put one. I can't find any email from you with a 
>> working config. if you would resend it, that would be great.
>>
>> On 2/18/2010 6:50 PM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>      
>>> Apologies, I thought you were talking about the FXO side. 2 stage dialing 
>>> for FXO is (as I understand it from the "docs") where the first portion of 
>>> the dialing comes in via SIP then the user gets a dialtone from the next 
>>> hop and dials manually. I didn't pay a lot of attention to that section but 
>>> I remember lots of options around delays and waiting for dialtone.
>>>
>>> On the FXS side it makes sense there might be a delay, just like in the 
>>> Polycoms (and Pattons) you can give the SPA a hint as to what is a 
>>> 'complete' number and the default hint ends with a timeout after N digits. 
>>> There's a little script (which I never messed with) in one of the config 
>>> fields that defines when to 'send' the call. I thought you were trying to 
>>> get some internal SIP device (like a polycom) to dial out on the FXO side 
>>> and there was this delay problem there.
>>>
>>> I thought I sent you the config of my "working" 3102 configuration a while 
>>> back, the list ate it but I sent it again directly to you. Its just a 
>>> screen cap of every config page of my unit. Ask me again if you want it 
>>> offlist and I'll send it directly or post it somewhere you can download it 
>>> from.
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Do you mean to 2 different places to define the dialing plan? If not, I'm 
>>>> not sure what 2 stage refers to.
>>>> I didn't see a PDF you sent. Did I miss something? I can't find anything.
>>>> I plugged a handset into the phone port on the SPA, and it behaves the 
>>>> same way when I dial form a handset.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/18/2010 4:38 PM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Maybe something related to the 2 stage dialing config? I didn't notice 
>>>>> any delays like this using the config I sent in that PDF but I was just 
>>>>> thrilled it could make calls at all and might just not have noticed the 
>>>>> delay. Maybe plug in a butt-set or a parallel phone and listen for where 
>>>>> the delay is to narrow it down (delay seizing line, delay before dialing, 
>>>>> delay or slow dialing of digits, ...?).
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> I have everything working except what I assume is a dialing rule problem.
>>>>>> As soon as I hit send on the Ploycom, I do see the call transferred to 
>>>>>> the IP of the SPA.
>>>>>> If I have dialed a 11 digit number (1 + area code + xxx-xxxx) the call 
>>>>>> rings immediately.
>>>>>> If I dial a 10 digit number (area code + xxx-xxxx) it starts ringing in 
>>>>>> about 6 seconds.
>>>>>> If I dial a 7 digit number, the call doesn't start ringing for 10 
>>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>> Nothing I have done with the dialing rule seems to change anything. I'm 
>>>>>> assuming the PSTN Line is the place I need to change this. Interdigit 
>>>>>> Short Timer defaults to 5 and Interdigit Short Timer: defaults to 10. 
>>>>>> After reading what they do, I thought that had to be it for sure. 
>>>>>> http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/fix-sipura-voip-ata-adapter-interdigit-dialing-delay/
>>>>>> I tried lowering those. It didn't seem to affect anything. I'm assuming 
>>>>>> that as soon as it shows the IP on the polycom, the call has been 
>>>>>> transferred to the SPA, so the change I need to make would have to be in 
>>>>>> the SPA. Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/18/2010 11:55 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> I started with an Audiocodes gateway back in October, it was the one 
>>>>>>> model (FXO+FXS) that sipxecs wouldn't configure and the sipxecs 
>>>>>>> configuration stuff for FXO required it to be treated as a homogenous 
>>>>>>> group of ports. Two things led me to return it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     1) The documentation and manual configuration of the SPA3102 is 
>>>>>>> pretty good compared to Audiocodes  (there were numerous occasions when 
>>>>>>> changing what appeared to be a completely unrelated setting resulted in 
>>>>>>> no dialtone on the FXS side, I think they just internally bail if 
>>>>>>> anything is amiss and give you no diagnostics).
>>>>>>>     2) On a brand new unit they wanted me to buy a service contract to 
>>>>>>> get the current firmware and download the manuals (such as they are)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The SPA may be a buggy POS but Audiocodes was at least as frustrating 
>>>>>>> to configure and, as a bonus, it was expensive too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect someone using a model supported by sipXecs for configuration 
>>>>>>> would have a better experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel your pain, the SPA sure is a PITA to get going. Happy to help if 
>>>>>>> I can, all those hours spent beating my head on the damn thing might as 
>>>>>>> well go to some good :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Eric Varsanyi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2010 11:17 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>> For debugging if you set it up to send syslog messages and turn the 
>>>>>>>>> level all the way up it sometimes produces semi-useful output. You 
>>>>>>>>> don't have to have a syslog server set up to catch it if you can run 
>>>>>>>>> tcpdump or socat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can capture traffic to/from the device with tcpdump that's 
>>>>>>>>> probably the next step if the syslog stuff doesn't pay off (it kind 
>>>>>>>>> of sounds like either its ignoring you or sipxproxy isn't really 
>>>>>>>>> sending the invite where you hope its going).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Eric Varsanyi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>> I have no doubt it is a PEBKAC, I just don't where to look. I 
>>>>>>>>>> changed it to 5061 (I now see that setting in the PSTN Line tab on 
>>>>>>>>>> the spa3102). The logs look about the same to me. I don't see 
>>>>>>>>>> anything that even tells me it is making it to the spa3102.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2010 10:54 AM, Eric Varsanyi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>> When I set mine up late last year the only issue I had making 
>>>>>>>>>>> outbound calls (that wasn't PEBKAC) was the thing didn't think 
>>>>>>>>>>> there was a line attached and returned something like 'resource not 
>>>>>>>>>>> avaiable' to the invite. I had to change the line voltage threshold 
>>>>>>>>>>> down in the international settings box to fix this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, in the log I see you're using 5060, the FXO side by default is 
>>>>>>>>>>> on 5061 (the FXS is on 5060). LIkely that's your issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to configure a spa3102 for outbound calls only. I know 
>>>>>>>>>>>> people pull their hair out over these devices, but I wanted to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> give it a shot. My only gateways I've worked with so far are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sipxbridge and an audiocodes configred from within sipx, so I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't really done too much manual FXO configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I may be missing something on the sipx end, because I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think the call is ever making it to the spa3102. This is a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> new setup and has no other gateways. I added the spa3102 as an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> unmanaged gateway. I enabled all the dialing plans and added the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway. I'm using a polycom 550, Sipx 4.0.4,  bootrom 4.2.1, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> firmware 3.1.3C split. I would show a siptrace, but the merged 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file doesn't really have anything in it. The sipx server is at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.81.1.5. The spa3102 is at 10.81.1.6. I tried setting the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> gateway in sipx to UDP manually (that is what the spa3102 defaults 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to) and specifying port 5060, but that didn't seem to change 
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. There are only 2 logs created, so I attached those. Is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there something simple I'm missing? I read through this, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/HowTo_configure_sipX_to_work_with_FXO/FXS_SIP_Gateways
>>>>>>>>>>>>  but I don't see anything that sticks out at me. The only thig I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought I might need to do is something in authrules.xml, but I'm 
 still not sure since the text around it refers to FXS and this is FXO. I sort 
of guess there has to be some some sort of authorization for the spa3102 to 
know the sipx call can be sent outbound, but I don't know where to do this. 
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here. I think the fact that I got an 
audiocodes 8 port working inbound and outbound with no questions (and clearly 
not much knowledge on the subject) is a testament to how well sipx is able to 
configure it!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthew
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                        
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>>        
>>
>>      
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