Actually, the backup and restore process is pretty cool.  The backup
creates a .dat file for each table that can be restored one by one with
the copy command.  I don't really think it is a 'corruption' issue, it
really feels like a disconnect between DB values and some XML stored
values.  Can be considered corruption, but seems like something that would
be fixed with an edit, if I only knew what to edit.  It will be an
interesting weekend.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 6:05 PM
To: Thomas Packert
Cc: Josh Patten; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Need the community's help with a error - Unable
to read OGNL expression

You can backup voicemail as a zip file and restore it after you build
the new system and import the users/phones you have exported.

Dialplans. Gateways. AA prompts need to be re-created and/or
downloaded/uploaded manually.

Tony

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Thomas Packert <[email protected]>
wrote:
> OK - I will start planning a rebuild.
>
> BTW - the delete commands were entered by me to 'delete' a polycom in
> order to attempt to re-create it.  But anytime I touch a polycom phone
it
> crashes the browser.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions will keep you posted.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 5:48 PM
> To: Thomas Packert
> Cc: Josh Patten; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Need the community's help with a error -
Unable
> to read OGNL expression
>
> Sincerely, I think you have a DB issue.
>
> This:
>
> delete from phone_group where phone_id = 12;
> delete from line where line_id = 15;
> delete from phone where phone_id = 12;
>
> And this:
>
> org.sipfoundry.sipxconfig.phone.polycom.PolycomPhone incompatible with
> org.sipfoundry.sipxconfig.phone.cisco.CiscoPhone
>
> Tells me that a table is hosed. This is unusual in that version. If
> you have a backup from when it was not hosed, you might consider that
> as your way out of this mess.
>
> Additionally, do not attempt to upgrade it, I don't think it would be
> a good idea.
>
> You might do an export of users/phones that are still there, since
> they will import into a new system, but there are a few things you'd
> have to recreate manually so you need to make sure you get everything.
>
> To prove my point, in a few days time you will find if your table is
> indeed corrupt or broken, that you will not be able to make subtle
> changes (like the description) of any phone or add/delete a line from
> a phone, etc. to the point where nothing can be done with phones at
> all.
>
> I've been through this a few times with 4.2, but never with 4.0. Had
> any abrupt power or related issues that would cause a systems problem?
> Were you in sipxconfig doing something that seemed to take forever and
> pulled a "Tony" and restarted services because you were impatient?
> (that would do it too, as I learned if done at the wrong moment).
>
> At least even if it is a rebuild, it's not impossible to recover from.
> Just some time.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Tony Graziano
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> OK, I see it is from the sipxconfig.log. While there are a lot of
>> similarities, don't necessarily interchange the term SCS500 and
>> sipxecs. They use different version number and there are subtle
>> differences, which are changing daily.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Tony Graziano
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Your sipxconfig.log is where you saw these errors?
>>>
>>> You are using IE or Firefox for your sipxconfig session? Chrome and
>>> others may not work properly.
>>>
>>> Do you have a recent backup?
>>>
>>> Can you create a "fake" phone of the same make/model? No line needs to
> be added.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Thomas Packert
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> We are on version 4.0.4 (specifically 4.0.4-017289 2009-11-19)
>>>>
>>>> It has not been upgraded recently, it is a recent install on this
> version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:32 PM
>>>> To: Thomas Packert
>>>> Cc: Josh Patten; [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Need the community's help with a error -
> Unable
>>>> to read OGNL expression
>>>>
>>>> I have seen this before on systems upgraded from 4.0.4 to 4.2, it
>>>> related to users, but the error was similar. Out of order data,
>>>> meaning a corrupt database.
>>>>
>>>> Your messages:
>>>>
>>>> delete from phone_group where phone_id = 12;
>>>> delete from line where line_id = 15;
>>>> delete from phone where phone_id = 12;
>>>>
>>>> Make me believe this is the case. Was the system upgraded?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Packert
> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> All,   Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 - The FTP server is running the Cisco 7960 phones can reboot just
>>>> fine,
>>>>> and I see the DHCPDISCOVER, DHCPOFFER and TFT request perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jun 11 15:00:43 phonesystem in.tftpd[2083]: RRQ from 10.123.1.215
>>>> filename
>>>>> SIP001B0C183702.cnf
>>>>> Jun 11 15:01:15 phonesystem in.tftpd[2095]: RRQ from 10.123.1.215
>>>> filename
>>>>> SIP001B0C183702.cnf
>>>>> Jun 11 15:01:25 phonesystem dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from
> 00:04:f2:26:27:9f
>>>> via
>>>>> eth0
>>>>> Jun 11 15:01:26 phonesystem dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.123.1.247 to
>>>>> 00:04:f2:26:27:9f via eth0
>>>>> Jun 11 15:01:46 phonesystem in.tftpd[2099]: RRQ from 10.123.1.215
>>>> filename
>>>>> SIP001B0C183702.cnf
>>>>> Jun 11 15:02:17 phonesystem in.tftpd[2100]: RRQ from 10.123.1.215
>>>> filename
>>>>> SIP001B0C183702.cnf
>>>>> Jun 11 15:02:28 phonesystem dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from
> 00:04:f2:26:27:9f
>>>> via
>>>>> eth0
>>>>> Jun 11 15:02:29 phonesystem dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.123.1.247 to
>>>>> 00:04:f2:26:27:9f via eth0
>>>>> Jun 11 15:02:48 phonesystem in.tftpd[2104]: RRQ from 10.123.1.215
>>>> filename
>>>>> SIP001B0C183702.cnf
>>>>> Jun 11 15:02:49 phonesystem snmpd[2632]: Connection from UDP:
>>>>> [10.123.1.1]:46545
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 - I deleted one of the Polycom 550s manually from the database and
>>>> tried
>>>>> to re-add the phone, as soon as I click on the Polycom 550 to add
it,
>>>> the
>>>>> same error " An internal error has occurred. Click here  to
continue.
> "
>>>>> and it logs me off, then log file shows the error
>>>>>
>>>>> Caused by: org.apache.hivemind.ApplicationRuntimeException: Unable
to
>>>> read
>>>>> OGNL expression '<parsed OGNL expression>' of
>>>>> $phonelabel_...@f3fb404a[phone/NewPhone/$phone$PhoneLabel]:
>>>>> org.sipfoundry.sipxconfig.phone.polycom.PolycomPhone incompatible
> with
>>>>> org.sipfoundry.sipxconfig.phone.cisco.CiscoPhone
>>>>> [context:/WEB-INF/phone/NewPhone.html, line 5]
>>>>>        at
>>>>>
>>>>
>
org.apache.tapestry.services.impl.ExpressionEvaluatorImpl.read(ExpressionE
>>>>> valuatorImpl.java:145)
>>>>>        at
>>>>>
>>>>
>
$ExpressionEvaluator_129136fd0c2.read($ExpressionEvaluator_129136fd0c2.jav
>>>>> a)
>>>>>        at
>>>>>
>>>>
>
org.apache.tapestry.binding.ExpressionBinding.resolveExpression(Expression
>>>>> Binding.java:139)
>>>>>        at
>>>>>
>>>>
>
org.apache.tapestry.binding.ExpressionBinding.getObject(ExpressionBinding.
>>>>> java)
>>>>>        ... 74 more
>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException:
>>>>> org.sipfoundry.sipxconfig.phone.polycom.PolycomPhone incompatible
> with
>>>>> org.sipfoundry.sipxconfig.phone.cisco.CiscoPhone
>>>>>        at $ASTChain_129136fd2aa.get($ASTChain_129136fd2aa.java)
>>>>>        at
>>>>>
>>>>
>
org.apache.tapestry.services.impl.ExpressionEvaluatorImpl.read(ExpressionE
>>>>> valuatorImpl.java:141)
>>>>>
>>>>> delete from phone_group where phone_id = 12;
>>>>> delete from line where line_id = 15;
>>>>> delete from phone where phone_id = 12;
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 - The device would not discover either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Josh Patten [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:57 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Need the community's help with a error -
>>>> Unable
>>>>> to read OGNL expression
>>>>>
>>>>> Or the FTP server isn't running
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Patten
>>>>> Assistant Network Administrator
>>>>> Brazos County IT Dept.
>>>>> (979) 361-4676
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/11/2010 11:55 AM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>>>>>> If the phone isn't booting it can't be discovered. It likely can't
> boot
>>>>>> because its being offered incompatible bootrom/firmware.
>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>>>> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>>>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>>>>>> Fax: 434.984.8427
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: Thomas Packert<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Fri Jun 11 12:51:46 2010
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Need the community's help with a error -
>>>>>> Unable toreadOGNL expression
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Packert
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a new Nortel SCS500 system and have an error with the
> Polycom
>>>>>>> Phones.  If they reboot they will not come back up.  We have 9
> Polycom
>>>>> 550
>>>>>>> phones.  The Cisco 7960s boot up fine and are working perfectly.
>  It
>>>> is
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> the 9 Polycom 550s.  They used to work, but when I added speed
dial
>>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>> and pushed profiles, something broke last Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried defaulting one of the phones?  I would also delete
> one
>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>> phones and let it re-discover it.
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>>>> ======================
>>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>>> sip: [email protected]
>>>> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>>>
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> ======================
>>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>>> sip: [email protected]
>>> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>>
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>
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>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
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>>> Fax: 434.984.8427
>>>
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>>> Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?
>>> Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ======================
>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> sip: [email protected]
>> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>
>> Email: [email protected]
>>
>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> sip: [email protected]
>> Fax: 434.984.8427
>>
>> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>>
>> Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?
>> Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ======================
> Tony Graziano, Manager
> Telephone: 434.984.8430
> sip: [email protected]
> Fax: 434.984.8431
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
> Telephone: 434.984.8426
> sip: [email protected]
> Fax: 434.984.8427
>
> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>
> Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas?
> Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
>
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Telephone: 434.984.8430
sip: [email protected]
Fax: 434.984.8431

Email: [email protected]

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Telephone: 434.984.8426
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