Is their handoff ethernet or pri?

We get PRI's here for 650'ish (including inbound calls free, 6000 minutes
outbound LD, 100 DID # block) per month. 23 bearer and 1 D channel. You can
strip it down with less options for 480 per month. When AT&T knocks on my
customers doors I show them the online stuff where people are down for a
week with flex. I know comcast also does a lower cost pri, but their
handoff IS a PRI.

We typically install a Patton 4960, and yeah, inbound and outbound faxes
are no problem if you have the right stuff either.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, AT&T are trying to be as helpful as possible at the moment so who
> knows. We ordered a PRI from them… they delivered IP Flex. It took us the
> best part of a month of going backwards and forwards trying to understand
> why I couldn’t send faxes properly before they actually admitted it wasn’t
> a traditional PRI service. Of course, they will deliver a PRI service but
> it’s wildly more expensive, can’t choose another carrier because of the
> discount we get on corporate cell phones… blah blah blah.****
>
> ** **
>
> Now I did purchase a Mediant 800 to plug the T1 into which is, as is my
> understanding, an SBC. I assume I’d be substantially better off using this
> than Karoo ? On the other hand, I do have a deep hatred of Audiocodes so if
> someone wants to tell me to try Karoo instead I’m just fine with that.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for the help !****
>
> ** **
>
> Pete****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:57 PM
>
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex****
>
> ** **
>
> (note: noone has ever reported getting at&t to allow sending to port 5080,
> we had a template in the system from the very original days of testing with
> at&t when sipxbrdidge was being built. truly we have some templates in
> there that need updating, removal and insertion.)****
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote:*
> ***
>
> The role(s) of the SBC are generally:****
>
> ** **
>
> Terminate SIP Trunks****
>
> Firewall SIP connections****
>
> Deal with signalling differences****
>
> ** **
>
> We have a software based SBC integrated into sipXecs called sipXbridge.
>  It however is not as robust as specialized products from Ingate, Acme
> Packet and the like.****
>
> ** **
>
> Additionally, some SIP trunk providers will only work with their certified
> products. So, leveraging the certifications of a big name SBC let's you get
> around this.****
>
> ** **
>
> So, the real questions, if AT&T will let you connect a SIP trunk directly
> to sipXecs are, will they route to 5080 udp, and does sipXbridge have all
> the settings that you'll need.  I believe there's a template for them
> already in the system.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
>   Mike****
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:**
> **
>
> I’ll expand on this a bit as I’m really not familiar with SBCs and as such
> the Karoo example on the wiki is a bit confusing to me at the moment. I
> guess I’ve never really understood correctly the role of an SBC.****
>
>  ****
>
> We’re just going to have a Flex IP trunk straight into SipX (at least,
> hopefully). The AT&T pipe will have a 1.1.x.x address and SipX will also
> have an address on that network. It’s a VM so I can just throw another
> vmNIC on it.****
>
>  ****
>
> Do I still need an SBC or can I just get AT&T to point all the SIP traffic
> from their end to port 5080 on my SipX ?****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:08 PM****
>
>
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex****
>
>  ****
>
> Neither of those are very robust. You should consider Karoo.****
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:**
> **
>
> Well, they’ll be just throwing in whatever AT&T throws in these days. I
> assume it’s either a Cisco or an Edgemarc 4608T.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:03 PM
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex****
>
>  ****
>
> they work fine as long as you use a very capable external sbc.****
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:*
> ***
>
> Hi folks****
>
>  ****
>
> Anyone aware of the latest on running SipX with AT&T IP Flex ? It’s not on
> AT&T’s “officially approved” list so they’re reticent. I did see a post
> from Ranga about it working well but that was from a couple of years ago.
> Just hoping to make sure the situation is still the same.****
>
>  ****
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> Thanks
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> Pete****
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