This is a small office so I don't need anything quite so complicated for fax, but I do having the NetSatisfaxtion server (and no real FXS ports) I have an Audiocodes ATA that has a Netsatisfaxtion custom firmware on it. It believe they call it an HTTPS ATA. That effectively receives the fax and sends it over HTTPS to the fax server which then makes the fax call.
Got a bunch of remote folks using Clearwire and I give them those ATAs to plug their faxes in to. As everything's packed up and sent to the server over HTTPS I don't have to worry about Clearwire's patchy (non-existant) fax support. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:29 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex We use Patton PRi gateways from a real TELCO and then we use their FXS gateways to connect the fax machines. ALL the DID hit sipx. All the gateways register to sipx. We simply point the DID number in sip to the user/alias or to the unified messaging screen to make the inbound fax paper or paperless for that device. It's not overly simple until you have done it once, but all the DID's go one place and everything has a CDR cut for it. We find when a fax machine breaks, we move the DID the the back screen and keep receiving faxes, making this approach FLEX-ible. We just find it works well to do it like this, but using a real telco is a key ingredient. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is a split small business circuit. 6 voice, the rest data (plus D). They give you an AT&T branded Edgemarc 4608T with either an Ethernet or PRI. Can't do both, hence I can't run one DID block to PRI, another straight over IP to Netsatisfaxtion. The problem really boils down to that the Edgemarc will do T38 over its analogue ports and over SIP. It can't do T38 over the PRI interface which, really, is a little bit crap. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:16 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex Is their handoff ethernet or pri? We get PRI's here for 650'ish (including inbound calls free, 6000 minutes outbound LD, 100 DID # block) per month. 23 bearer and 1 D channel. You can strip it down with less options for 480 per month. When AT&T knocks on my customers doors I show them the online stuff where people are down for a week with flex. I know comcast also does a lower cost pri, but their handoff IS a PRI. We typically install a Patton 4960, and yeah, inbound and outbound faxes are no problem if you have the right stuff either. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Well, AT&T are trying to be as helpful as possible at the moment so who knows. We ordered a PRI from them... they delivered IP Flex. It took us the best part of a month of going backwards and forwards trying to understand why I couldn't send faxes properly before they actually admitted it wasn't a traditional PRI service. Of course, they will deliver a PRI service but it's wildly more expensive, can't choose another carrier because of the discount we get on corporate cell phones... blah blah blah. Now I did purchase a Mediant 800 to plug the T1 into which is, as is my understanding, an SBC. I assume I'd be substantially better off using this than Karoo ? On the other hand, I do have a deep hatred of Audiocodes so if someone wants to tell me to try Karoo instead I'm just fine with that. Thanks for the help ! Pete From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:57 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex (note: noone has ever reported getting at&t to allow sending to port 5080, we had a template in the system from the very original days of testing with at&t when sipxbrdidge was being built. truly we have some templates in there that need updating, removal and insertion.) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The role(s) of the SBC are generally: Terminate SIP Trunks Firewall SIP connections Deal with signalling differences We have a software based SBC integrated into sipXecs called sipXbridge. It however is not as robust as specialized products from Ingate, Acme Packet and the like. Additionally, some SIP trunk providers will only work with their certified products. So, leveraging the certifications of a big name SBC let's you get around this. So, the real questions, if AT&T will let you connect a SIP trunk directly to sipXecs are, will they route to 5080 udp, and does sipXbridge have all the settings that you'll need. I believe there's a template for them already in the system. Thanks, Mike On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'll expand on this a bit as I'm really not familiar with SBCs and as such the Karoo example on the wiki is a bit confusing to me at the moment. I guess I've never really understood correctly the role of an SBC. We're just going to have a Flex IP trunk straight into SipX (at least, hopefully). The AT&T pipe will have a 1.1.x.x address and SipX will also have an address on that network. It's a VM so I can just throw another vmNIC on it. Do I still need an SBC or can I just get AT&T to point all the SIP traffic from their end to port 5080 on my SipX ? Thanks Pete From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:08 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex Neither of those are very robust. You should consider Karoo. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Well, they'll be just throwing in whatever AT&T throws in these days. I assume it's either a Cisco or an Edgemarc 4608T. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:03 PM To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software Subject: Re: [sipx-users] AT&T IP Flex they work fine as long as you use a very capable external sbc. On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Pete Burgess <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi folks Anyone aware of the latest on running SipX with AT&T IP Flex ? It's not on AT&T's "officially approved" list so they're reticent. I did see a post from Ranga about it working well but that was from a couple of years ago. Just hoping to make sure the situation is still the same. 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