Christiaan,

yes I understand that'd lead to many regressions and maybe would make Skim no 
longer Skim. But what about "Times They are a-Changin" ? Maybe the only thing 
left is for someone to fork Skim and get it done.

Gary

Le Oct 13, 2011 à 1:49 PM, Christiaan Hofman a écrit :

> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 22:28, Matt Mollison wrote:
> 
>> I just wanted to say that I like Gary's suggestion. IMHO, allowing the user 
>> to choose the default annotation storage format (skimnotes vs embedded vs 
>> etc.) would be a welcome option. Then I could continue to use Skim on the 
>> Mac and read on the iPad, and share PDFs with colleagues who don't use Skim, 
>> in a relatively seamless manner (i.e., without the extra conversion steps 
>> that humanengr mentioned). I don't know how much of a limiting factor it is, 
>> but Skim cannot edit embedded notes (made with Preview.app, Acrobat, 
>> GoodReader, PDF Expert, etc.) without converting to SkimNotes format.
> 
> No, it's not possible to have the user being able to choose between them, 
> it's either always one or the other. And having the other would drop a lot of 
> what I think are central features of Skim, it's part of what makes Skim Skim. 
> Changing the way Skim saves the notes would lead to many regressions. 
> 
> And indeed this was discussed and decided to death, I'l not again go into all 
> the details.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> 
>> Again, I love Skim and I've used it for about 5 or so years, but if 
>> something like defaulting to embedded notes doesn't happen I honestly will 
>> probably just use Preview. No disrespect to Skim, but it's the easiest path 
>> for my workflow. (And as a note, I used Preview to read/annotate a couple 
>> PDFs recently and its annotation tools are pretty good in Lion; plus as I 
>> already mentioned, it is fewer steps to have to remember to do when reading 
>> on the iPad and sharing with non-Skim colleagues.)
>> 
>> This is off topic for this thread but related to Tom's LaTeX comment, but is 
>> it possible to have emacs (Aquamacs) open a pdflatex'd (C-c C-c) PDF in Skim 
>> when Preview is set as the default PDF reader?
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Schneider <schne...@mail.nih.gov> 
>> wrote:
>> Gary:
>> 
>> > I used to really love Skim. I still do. But I have moved to Preview.
>> > I really want to ask, has Skim considered becoming merely an
>> > alternative PDF viewer? That is to say, to save annotations just
>> > like Acrobat and Preview within the PDF. Yes you can embed notes or
>> > convert notes to Skim but that is an extra step.
>> 
>> Yes that extra step is a pain and though I've wrapped it up in a
>> script I still have to run the script.
>> http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/ftp/skim
>> http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/ftp/skimembed
>> 
>> I use Skim in two ways - to look at a PDF and to refresh the PDF when
>> generated from LaTeX to make a wysiwyg
>> (http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/atchange.html).  As far as I know no
>> other reader watches the file and refreshes.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>>  National Institutes of Health
>>  National Cancer Institute
>>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>>  http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent)
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