I for one like Skim just the way it is.

Jack A. Reis
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On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Gary Yuen <garyy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Christiaan,
> 
> yes I understand that'd lead to many regressions and maybe would make Skim no 
> longer Skim. But what about "Times They are a-Changin" ? Maybe the only thing 
> left is for someone to fork Skim and get it done.
> 
> Gary
> 
> Le Oct 13, 2011 à 1:49 PM, Christiaan Hofman a écrit :
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 22:28, Matt Mollison wrote:
>> 
>>> I just wanted to say that I like Gary's suggestion. IMHO, allowing the user 
>>> to choose the default annotation storage format (skimnotes vs embedded vs 
>>> etc.) would be a welcome option. Then I could continue to use Skim on the 
>>> Mac and read on the iPad, and share PDFs with colleagues who don't use 
>>> Skim, in a relatively seamless manner (i.e., without the extra conversion 
>>> steps that humanengr mentioned). I don't know how much of a limiting factor 
>>> it is, but Skim cannot edit embedded notes (made with Preview.app, Acrobat, 
>>> GoodReader, PDF Expert, etc.) without converting to SkimNotes format.
>> 
>> No, it's not possible to have the user being able to choose between them, 
>> it's either always one or the other. And having the other would drop a lot 
>> of what I think are central features of Skim, it's part of what makes Skim 
>> Skim. Changing the way Skim saves the notes would lead to many regressions. 
>> 
>> And indeed this was discussed and decided to death, I'l not again go into 
>> all the details.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> 
>>> Again, I love Skim and I've used it for about 5 or so years, but if 
>>> something like defaulting to embedded notes doesn't happen I honestly will 
>>> probably just use Preview. No disrespect to Skim, but it's the easiest path 
>>> for my workflow. (And as a note, I used Preview to read/annotate a couple 
>>> PDFs recently and its annotation tools are pretty good in Lion; plus as I 
>>> already mentioned, it is fewer steps to have to remember to do when reading 
>>> on the iPad and sharing with non-Skim colleagues.)
>>> 
>>> This is off topic for this thread but related to Tom's LaTeX comment, but 
>>> is it possible to have emacs (Aquamacs) open a pdflatex'd (C-c C-c) PDF in 
>>> Skim when Preview is set as the default PDF reader?
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Schneider <schne...@mail.nih.gov> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Gary:
>>> 
>>> > I used to really love Skim. I still do. But I have moved to Preview.
>>> > I really want to ask, has Skim considered becoming merely an
>>> > alternative PDF viewer? That is to say, to save annotations just
>>> > like Acrobat and Preview within the PDF. Yes you can embed notes or
>>> > convert notes to Skim but that is an extra step.
>>> 
>>> Yes that extra step is a pain and though I've wrapped it up in a
>>> script I still have to run the script.
>>> http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/ftp/skim
>>> http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/ftp/skimembed
>>> 
>>> I use Skim in two ways - to look at a PDF and to refresh the PDF when
>>> generated from LaTeX to make a wysiwyg
>>> (http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/atchange.html).  As far as I know no
>>> other reader watches the file and refreshes.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>>  Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D.
>>>  National Institutes of Health
>>>  National Cancer Institute
>>>  Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
>>>  Molecular Information Theory Group
>>>  Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
>>>  http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent)
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