agreed totally although I would like to see jaws work with skype right out of the box thanks again ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordan Radic" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] idea for skype scripts and jaws
> Hi, Clare! > I'd like to point out a few things and maybe I'll go a bit off topic here. > The last version of Jaws out there is third or fourth build of 10.0 and > it's very functional. I wouldn't know your reasons to stick with version > 6.x but I know from my experience that there are many problems with older > versions of Jaws using the web and following the everyday applications > progress. > If the reason for not upgrading your version of Jaws is the financial one, > I believe you as anyone else know that this could be solved in other ways. > Problem is that Doug can't fully concentrate on creating and fixing the > current version of scripts if he has to deal with compatibility issues > with older versions of Jaws and find the ways how will things work in all > the supported versions and be the unique set of scripts in the same time. > I'm also against the integration of scripts into the Jaws installation but > some of us should give Doug a break with specific and special needs. The > man does a really wonderful job in his own time besides his daily work and > my humble opinion is that we all should allow him to create one solid and > stable scripts version without tails for five or more years old versions > of Jaws. > One thing I learn using the computers is that we should follow their > progress. There's always a point when we need to stop using Windows 98 and > install XP, change our Jaws from 6, 7 or 8 with 10. If we stay behing > technology, it won't wait for us. Making a change sometimes can be hard > and there's a period of adjusting to the new environment but nobody died > from it, as far as I know:). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clare Page" <clare.page at wanadoo.fr> > To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] idea for skype scripts and jaws > > >> Hi Doug! >> As a user of a relatively old version of JAWS, namely 6.20, I am not >> personally in favour of Skype scripts being added to new versions of >> JAWS, especially if you're right that this would mean that there would >> then no longer be scripts for older versions of JAWS. I'm happy with the >> situation as it is now: but please don't stop making the scripts usable >> with JAWS 6, otherwise I would not be a happy bunny! >> Thanks very much for doing all these scrips: if it wasn't for you, I >> might have still been using 3.8 right now, since I found Skype 4 very >> hard to use without the JAWS scripts. Keep up the good work! >> Bye for now! >>>From Clare >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] idea for skype scripts and jaws >> >> >>> >>> This idea works to a point, but there are also problems with it. I've >>> outlined the ones I see in previous messages on this list, but here >>> are some: >>> >>> Skype updates sometimes happen faster than JAWS updates, so there >>> would still be a need to have script updates before JAWS updates >>> sometimes. >>> >>> The Skype scripts now support older JAWS versions as an ongoing goal, >>> but if the Skype scripts became part of JAWS itself, I think support >>> for new Skype versions would stop extending to older JAWS versions. >>> >>> Then there's a technical point--fixable, but currently an issue: Some >>> of the current Skype script code may only work if the Skype scripts >>> are in the JAWS user folder, but JAWS default scripts go in the JAWS >>> shared folder. I have not actually tested the Skype scripts in the >>> shared folder. >>> >>> All that said though, there are enough plusses to incorporating Skype >>> scripts into JAWS to make it worth considering carefully: SkypeWatch >>> would certainly be easier to install. :) JAWS would work with Skype >>> out of the box. JAWS developers might more closely see any issues >>> between Skype and JAWS itself and be able to fix them in JAWS. >>> >>> Over all though, I still support the idea of having a separate script >>> set for Skype that is not part of JAWS. I did once consider trying to >>> get the scripts made into a Skype Extra, but as the scripts are needed >>> in order to access the Skype Extras Manager, that ended up looking >>> more like a chicken and an egg than a problem and a solution. :) >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 08:43:10PM +0100, alex thynne wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I would like to see Freedom Scientific bundle the skype scripts with new >>> versions of jaws. In fact, I even go so far as to say that freedom >>> needs to >>> look at its updates technology so that skype set scripts can be updated >>> from >>> an update centre of some sort. I know it is quite possible for users of >>> hal >>> to update maps so they can have the very latest ones on their computers, >>> so >>> why not Freedom. So many blind users of jaws download skype, I would >>> personally like to see Doug's work reflected in what is bundled with the >>> jaws product. It would therefore follow that other script developers' >>> products could be downloaded from the one place on the update centre >>> idea I >>> have. The scripts for skype are so good that I think it should be made >>> even >>> easier to get them. Is this feasible? I'll only post this one email as >>> I >>> don't want to end up going into a topic of freedom's policy on what is >>> bundled with jaws, but I think the point is valid enough for the idea to >>> be >>> explored. If everyone bombards freedom with a request for doug's >>> scripts to >>> be incorporated into the package, eventually, freedom will have to >>> listen to >>> the skype community who use Doug's scripts. >>> >>> Alex >>> klango ID: alex-thynne >>> skype name: grytpype2006 >>> windows live messenger name: alex.thynne at hotmail.co.uk >>> >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was >>> done." --Helen Keller >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >
