On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 06:38:58AM +1100, Michael Lake wrote:
> Andrew Reilly wrote:
> > Another alternative is to build LyX, or possibly KLyX.  They don't
> > produce particularly "nice" looking LaTeX, 
> 
> Its Yuk!
> And they have added 'extensions' at the start of the files'. latex won't
> run LyX files.

Are you sure?  It did the last time I tried, but that was quite
a few versions ago.  LyX 0.10 I think.

> If you make some nicely laid out LaTeX file and import into LyX it
> stuffs it up and it does not support all the power of LaTeX.

Well, you'd hardly expect a machine to put the same nuances into
the formatting commands that a person does.

> It tries to be 1/2 way between Word and laTeX.

I'd say that it achieves that admirably.

> > printed output, and it "feels" like LaTeX while you're using it.
> How can it "feel" like LaTeX when its a WYSIWYG ?

It "feels" like LaTeX in that paragraphs behave the way they do in
LaTeX.  Item, List, Description etc., environments behave the way
they do in LaTeX.  Cross references, labels, bibtex databases all
work properly too.  And the equation editor is gorgeous.

If you've learned enough about TeX/LaTeX to know how it thinks,
how it boxes up the text, and separates things with elastic struts,
it works really nicely, I think.

I've used it to edit/typeset a 160 page reference document, and
didn't think it was really missing anything.  I even coaxed it into
using the harvard/agsm bibliography style, the same as I used on
my thesis.  It's pretty good at letting you use "foreign"
formatting.  Sure it shows up in red in the editing window, but
it works just like LaTeX when formatted.

> The "feel" of LaTeXing is flying with your favorite text editor (vi,
> gvim, emacs) and churing out beautiful docs. No more slow word
> processors - just markup the text.

Yeah, that's OK too.  Hell, most of what I write these days is
flat ASCII (email or source), and for that vi and emacs rule.
For writing "documentation", though, I didn't hate using LyX.

Except that it's not easy to get LaTeX into one of the PC
"wordprocessor" formats...  My last "doco" effort was done with
StarOffice5.1a-word.  Not nearly as pleasant as LyX, but it
gives them what they want.

-- 
Andrew
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