On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 10:28:47AM +1100, Alex Salmon wrote:
> a) PINE.. how the heck do u get pine for deb.. apt-get wont find it.. i
> go to the packages site and all i find is the source in a .deb and a
> .diff file.. w/ no instructions on how to config it for deb.. anyway
> dont source debian packages come in .dsc or somthing along those
> lines.. I tried to compile from the source but it just bombs. out..
> Another possiblity could i just download the pine binary and run it? or
> are they connfigured diffrently.
the pine license does not allow the distribution of "modified"
binaries. since the debian pine has to be modified to use liblockfile
(all mail programs use the same (nfs-safe) locking method in debian to
prevent any incompatibilities), it cannot be distributed as a binary,
without getting explicit permission every time its recompiled.
redhat (and the others) conveniently ignore this little license issue
(as they did with the kde/gpl problem), since the economic benefit
outweighs the potential lawsuit (aren't they model open-source
citizens). (where did all the redhat "kde is illegal, gnome is the
future" rhetoric go, once mandrake started becoming competition?)
install pine4-src and pine4-diffs, read the README in /usr/src/pine4.
the compile is failing because apt-get only sucks in dependencies, not
"recommends" or "suggests".
"apt-cache show pine4-diffs" will show you the package info. look at
the line beginning "Recommends:". install those packages too, then it
should compile fine.
no, i don't know why they are only recommended, the source package
doesn't have too many uses without them.
other package tools, like "dselect" or "gnome-apt" will show you the
recommends/suggests and let you choose them too, its only apt-get that
doesn't.
> b) SOUND .. where is sound configured in debian. i just get ann error
> cant open /dev/dsp/
>
> vila:/# ls -la /dev/dsp*
> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 6 03:44 /dev/dsp
> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 19 Jul 6 03:44 /dev/dsp1
> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 35 Jul 6 03:44 /dev/dsp2
> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 51 Jul 6 03:44 /dev/dsp3
>
> I am thinking i just havent got the right drivers but i did install them
> @ the beginning.
hmm.. are you running your audio program as someone who can access
these devices?
the easiest thing (for a home machine) is to add yourself to these
groups ("adduser <login> <group>"):
audio, floppy, cdrom, adm
that avoids having to login as root for most "normal" tasks.
otherwise, make sure /proc/modules lists the right audio drivers.
> c) my middle mouse button is not being seen: i have a microsoft 3 button
> mouse w/ a wheel so i assume it is an intellimouse. it is ps2 and when i
> tell it to use ps2 the middle button dont work when i tell it to use
> intellimouse it dont work at all.
jeff answered this one
> to remove somthing from startup do i just do a
> /etc/rc3.d/S99myservice stop or do i delete it from the folder.. (is
> there a prog lilke ntsysv i could use)
easiest is just to remove the package you don't want.
if you actually want to use the different runlevels for something
useful (i never have), just remove the /etc/rcN.d/[SK]* symlinks as
appropriate. don't worry, they won't be reinstalled on a package
upgrade.
> has anyone got realaudio working in deb the download site only has the
> rpm availible for download for i386. it lists the others but they dont
> exist.??
no idea - never used it.
you could always try "alien" on the .rpm, but that tends to get messy
if you do it too much.
> openssl (licq wont load without it) refuses to apt-get becasue it
> conflicts with licq-data (ironic) so i download the source and it bombs
> out on millions of errors..
i can't find any dependency or conflict between licq and openssl (from
the package info).. exactly what are you trying to do, and what errors
are you getting?
> to cap off --- WHY --- as i install more will all the libs i need
> eventually trickel down to my box or will oll these problems stay with
> me forever..
all dependencies will automatically be sucked in by apt-get. for most
software, the recommended packages are also worth installing. i'd
suggest you have a go at gnome-apt, or even (a shudder from jeff)
dselect.
(dselect is very easy to use, just to install a single package (once
you work out the keys):
dselect
choose "update"
choose "select"
search (`/') for your packagename. `\' to search again.
`+' to install, `-' to remove, `_' to purge.
ditto for the suggests/recommends that it then shows you
`return' to complete selection
choose "install"
choose "quit"
`?' for help
)
> IF only i could play my mp3's to keep me sane..
"apt-cache search mp3" should be enough to keep you busy.
(then you can see the light, and start using ogg-vorbis instead ;)
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