On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 08:54:37PM +1100, Karl Clements wrote:

> Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has
> given the world?

Well, look at the idiotic number of mechanics that cars have
given to the world.  I don't know a carborator from a cylinder.
I reckon I drive alright, although.  (People who've been
passengers in my car, shuddup ;).

The elite computer user attitude is, like, so yesterday.  99% of
people use a computer to achieve a goal.  Don't let the computer
get in the way unless absolutely necessary.

> Linux is not intended as a desktop os, sure the desktop has
> come a long way, but its not there yet.

I was talking in the future context, not the now.  I'll switch
back to the now context for this email, though.

> Most of the user friendly gui's (kde, gnome come to mind) are
> too resource hungry to to be any good, and the XF86 is very
> inefficient.

They're no more resource-hungry than, say, Windows 2000.  I'll
take a flying bet my 1GHz Linux box at work runs just as fast as
Win{XP,98,2K} would.  Many people run Linux as a minimalist
server on old hardware, than start complaining that it's slow
when they try to use GNOME/KDE.  Gee, big whoop, it's not really
much slower than Windows is on the same hardware either.

> For linux to gain a larger market share X needs to be reworked
> so its more efficient and someone needs to put together a user
> friendly wm that doesn't chew up all your resources. 

See above.  And don't generalise things and start saying that X
is inefficient.  I'm sure all the minimalists who run twm and
xterms will disagree with you :).

> I can run 2k quite happily on my 300, slack8 with kde on my 300
> however is slow as all hell. This is why I dropped kde.  --

What were you doing on KDE that was so much slower?  KMail was
slow?  Konqueror?  I don't believe that KDE is that much slower
than Win2K given the same hardware (or whether it's slower at
all).


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