That's just the thing. If the new units they sound fail constantly then
I don't think the RMA's are going to work any better. I can't play
musical air bridges and keep swapping them in and out. It just worries
me that I purchase a new protect and it doesn't' work so I can only
wonder about the RMA's.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from ELECTROCOMM
AGAIN!!!

Our opinion is that as long as the unit works (and continuous to work),
and
is covered by a warrantee, who cares if it is new, refurb, or returned.

Ray


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from ELECTROCOMM
AGAIN!!!


> I'm not sure of how EC is handling SB's.
> But, in the past when I have sent gear back to EC, whether it be an
amp or
a
> radio, they have always sent new replacements or given me a credit
without
> an argument. It's one of their strong points as a distributor. They
usually
> are top notch to deal with.
> If EC is doing repairs or fixes and sending them out again, that
sounds
like
> a special deal/situation between them and SB.
> I myself never want someone else's repaired units, I always want new,
> regardless if the unit is DOA or dies within the warrantee period.
>
> One thing to note however is that on the other lists, it's been
discussed
> many times that if it is not DOA but within the warrantee period
Alvarion.
> Trango and others all send repaired units out as replacements. It's
been
> debated and it seems the response by most is they want new units not
> repaired units, but it's the way it is.
>
> The way I handle defective units at this time from SB's is to toss
them in
a
> big rma box and replace the unit with a different manufacturers radio.
I'll
> wait until the problems with faulty hardware/software gets resolved
and
then
> decide what to do with them. I don't feel like going for 'round two'
of
the
> battle of a faulty cpe with a customer.
> George
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from
ELECTROCOMM
> AGAIN!!!
>
>
> > All I have to say is as long it is working I don't care.. I just
don't
> want
> > to get back something that I sent in as bad and then be stuck with a
non
> > working radio again..
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 7:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from
ELECTROCOMM
> > AGAIN!!!
> >
> >
> > You should hop over to the Trango list, they do the same thing...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dan @ Wyoming.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from
ELECTROCOMM
> > AGAIN!!!
> >
> >
> > > Same here boys.  I got one fresh from Singapor with all 4 corners
of
> > > the the Total sticker peeling off.  So that tells me that it had
been
> > > opened up.  By the way it is no good.
> > >
> > > SB.....You need to fix this problem.  You need to sell those as a
> > > referb product at a discount price.  With the # of radio's that
have
> > > been RMA'd there are going to be a bunch of referbs coming down
the
> > > line.
> > >
> > > SB PLEASE FIX THIS PROBLEM!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Thanks......Dan
> > >
> > > On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:14:36 -0700
> > > Gary Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Yes, very common in any product. I buy a new product and pay new
> > > > product price. It is a bad unit
> > > > (Mfgr Fault). I send it back (At my cost for shipping)  and they
> > > > replace it with a refurbed unit
> > > > someone else sent back and they fixed.
> > > > Bottom line is I paid new unit price and double shipping  for a
used
> > > > refurbed unit. That sucks.
> > > > This will weigh in when I choose brands to buy.
> > > >
> > > > The Wirefree Network wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought they already commented on this issue.  If I recall
> > > > >correctly,
> > > > > refurbished units ARE used for RMA's.  That is the policy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I'm wrong??
> > > > >
> > > > > Sully
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric P.
> > > > >Grundlehner
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:51 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from
> > > > >ELECTROCOMM
> > > > > AGAIN!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > After all this talk I just checked my Airbridge Total (rma) I
> > > > >received
> > > > > last week after waiting months for it. The corners look like
the
> > > > > stickers have been removed before. All four corners are
creased.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I send back a unit that doesn't work as a RMA and they send
back
> > > > > another refurbished unit/old RMA it will be a on going cycle
until
> > > > >I get
> > > > > a unit that is either new or works. Maybe Smartbridges can
afford
> > > > >to
> > > > > play this game but I sure can't with my clients. The bottom
line
is
> > > > >we
> > > > > can't look like idiots  because SB sends us a broken up after
> > > > >broken
> > > > > unit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone from ECOMM or SB please comment on this issue.
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurence
> > > > >Laforga
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:05 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] getting possible used items from
> > > > >ELECTROCOMM
> > > > > AGAIN!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey..I noticed that too when I first got'em...one was to
fulfill
an
> > > > > RMA and another one a regular order. Both had the corners of
the
> > > > >label
> > > > > creased as if they've been peeled off. I needed to replace a
> > > > > customer's unit and it worked with the new firmware so I
figured
no
> > > > > big deal.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that they will replace RMA's with other units that have
been
> > > > > refurbished or deemed not to be defective but I would think
that
> > > > > regular orders should be filled with NEW units.
> > > > >
> > > > > Laurence
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay this is the 2nd time I have ordered equipment and
appears 3
> > > > > ABO's that I received yesterday one has the corners of the
sticker
> > > > > pulled up and its obvious it was tampered with?? Is this a
used
> > > > >unit
> > > > > that was bad and sent in for repair and shipped back out to me
> > > > >again!
> > > > > I looked at the stock I got from the previous week and low and
> > > > >behold
> > > > > I found yet another one that it appears the whole sticker was
off
> > > > >and
> > > > > its all bubbled up and corner is undone like it was lifted off
as
> > > > > well..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope these work because I need them BAD!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can someone from Ecomm and Smartbridges get together to find
out
> > > > > what the heck is going on over there I don't want to be out in
the
> > > > > field looking like an idiot again with used units with
problems..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Laurence Laforga
> > > > > TIRGON Communications, LLC.
> > > > > dba Waipahu.Net Wireless Broadband
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